In a live, on-camera interview with Fox News host Bill O’Reilly, the presumptive Republican nominee for president said the number of transgender people in America are too few to command such importance in the scheme of things, describing them as “such a tiny part of our population.” And in the same breath, Donald Trump also said “we have to protect everybody, even if it’s just one person.”
But when it comes to trans civil rights, and laws to govern who uses which bathrooms, Trump repeated his new mantra on the topic, which is he’d “leave it to the states to decide,” continuing to back away from his first declaration on the Today show last month, in which he criticized North Carolina’s H.B. 2 law and suggested trans people should use the bathroom they feel is appropriate.
O’Reilly asked the billionaire real estate tycoon if any of his Trump properties had or planned to install gender-neutral bathrooms. “I hope not,” Trump replied, saying they were “unbelievably expensive.” O’Reilly countered, tongue firmly in cheek, that it’s an issue of “human rights,” and Trump replied, “Well, I don’t know about that.”
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Such a project to install gender-neutral bathrooms nationwide, Trump speculated, would cost “hundreds of billions of dollars,” which he told O’Reilly wasn’t what America wants.
“I think our country really wants to be spending money on other things, let’s build more buildings, let’s create more jobs, let’s do something. That would be an unbelievably expensive situation to do. Unbelievably. And frankly, the number of people we’re talking about is really a small number. Again, protect them, but it’s a really, really small number.”
Watch the full interview below: