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Judge orders Colo. bakery to offer wedding cakes for same-sex couples

Friday, December 6, 2013

DENVER — A baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony must serve gay couples despite his religious beliefs or face fines, a judge said Friday.

The order from administrative law judge Robert N. Spencer said Masterpiece Cakeshop in suburban Denver discriminated against a couple “because of their sexual orientation by refusing to sell them a wedding cake for their same-sex marriage.”

gay-wedding-cakeThe order says the cake-maker must “cease and desist from discriminating” against gay couples. Although the judge did not impose fines in this case, the business will face penalties if it continues to turn away gay couples who want to buy cakes.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against shop owner Jack Phillips with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission last year on behalf of Charlie Craig, 33, and David Mullins, 29. The couple was married in Massachusetts and wanted a wedding cake to celebrate in Colorado.

Mullins and Craig wanted to buy a cake in July 2012, but when Phillips found out the cake was to celebrate a gay wedding, he turned the couple of away, according to the complaint.

Nicolle Martin, an attorney for Masterpiece Cakeshop, said the judge’s order puts Phillips in an impossible position of going against his Christian faith.

“He can’t violate his conscience in order to collect a paycheck,” she said. “If Jack can’t make wedding cakes, he can’t continue to support his family. And in order to make wedding cakes, Jack must violate his belief system. That is a reprehensible choice. It is antithetical to everything America stands for.”

The Civil Rights Commission is expected to certify the judge’s order next week. Phillips can appeal the judge’s order, and Martin said they’re considering their next steps.

Mullins said he and Craig are “ecstatic.”

“To a certain extent, though, I don’t think that this is necessarily a surprise,” he said. “We thought it was pretty clear cut that he had discriminated against us.”

Mullins said he hopes the “decision will help ensure that no one else will experience this kind of discrimination again in Colorado.”

A similar is pending in Washington state, where a florist is accused of refusing service for a same-sex wedding. In New Mexico, the state Supreme Court ruled in August that an Albuquerque business was wrong to decline to photograph a same-sex couple’s commitment ceremony.

Colorado has a constitutional ban against gay marriage but allows civil unions. The civil union law, which passed earlier this year, does not provide religious protections for businesses.

“At first blush, it may seem reasonable that a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone it chooses,” Judge Spencer said in his written order. “This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are.”

ACLU attorney Amanda Goad said no one is asking Phillips to change his religious beliefs.

“But treating gay people differently because of who they are is discrimination, plain and simple,” she said.

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  1. GOOD

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:14pm
  2. Very good

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:16pm
  3. Of course!

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:16pm
  4. Why would anyone in the world want to buy from bigots who have to have a court order to create a cake they’ll probably mess up just to be mean?

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:16pm
  5. I would NOT eat a cake that came from a bakery that had to be court ordered to bake it. No telling WHAT they put in it.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:19pm
  6. I would want the first piece of every cake eaten by a fundamentalist minister.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:26pm
  7. I agree. and if someone gets sick from a cake they made all they will do is say "you made us make it..."

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:27pm
  8. they probably don't want the cake anymore, but, the principle that people can deny you service because of your race, religion, sexual orientation, etc, is what is wrong. if it's a public business it should not be able to discriminate, like they used to do with "whites only"

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:45pm
  9. Exactly! Why does everyone here think this is just about cake? The lawsuit, like so many others, is about putting these businesses on notice that it's not OK to discriminate against gays -- or any other race or class of people.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:49pm
  10. it's not the point of wanting that cake anymore, it's the point of them being forced to follow the same laws as everyone else, since we don't live in a theocracy, even though people like them think we should. we live in a republic, and their religious viewpoints don't matter, because there is a separation of church and state in this country. and as far as 'what would they put in it or do to it'...i wish they would, that would only get them in deeper and bring criminal charges against them...chances are they won't get any LGBT business in the future for just this reason, which means they won. if anything, it ought to become the preferred cake maker for gays, make them grind their teeth every time they get their nose rubbed in the fact they can't be bigots and get away with it by hiding behind their bible

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:09pm
  11. If the business that initially didn't want to make the cake due to discrimination and then had to make it which got the customers sick would face a massive lawsuit on multiple charges. Intentional food poisoning, hate crimes, etc. While it would suck to be poisoned, the person that made the cake will be thrown in jail and the business itself would be shut down by the health inspector. I don't think any business owner would be willing to take that risk.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:16pm
  12. idk there must be some degree of satisfaction in rubbing it in said bigot's face though. i think its a pissing contest at that point lol.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:46pm
  13. I was just thinking the same thing, they wouldnt get my business.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:22am
  14. I was raised in the faith and you never forget your upbringing, but we were also taught that every decision has consequences.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 6:30am
  15. You make them do it, then you get another real baker to make you a wonderful cake. Then you toss the bigot cake in the garbage.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 7:51am
  16. not to mention, possibly add something like "eye drops" to cause everyone to end up on a toilet, or something even worse... if they don't want to serve gay couples, it's their financial loss... boycott the biggot and move on to another gay friendly bakery!!!

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:35pm
  17. I wouldn’t go there ….they will be spiteful…

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:16pm
  18. NICE

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:17pm
  19. And here we go, ladies and gentlemen, the perfect example of how to use the separation of church and state in the favor of LGBT people.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:17pm
  20. Woohoo Colorado! Makes me want to move back.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:18pm
  21. Exactly! Why would the LGBQT community want to increase their profits!? I think just knowing that WE WON is sufficient! :)

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:18pm
  22. Talk about having your cake and eating it too…

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:18pm
  23. I wouldn’t want a cake from resentful bigots. If a judge has to order them to make a cake, I’d be hesitant to eat that cake.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:18pm
  24. I agree with Amma. The best thing to do in cases like this is to boycott them. They don’t deserve our money and we shouldn’t bleed our community giving it to them. Give LGBT friendly businesses our money, not hetero-supremacists jackasses.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:19pm
  25. Amen!

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:19pm
  26. i think the point is that it sets a precedent that this behaviour is not ok, not to actually order from these jerks!!!

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:29pm
  27. Eileen: I totally agree, but there are some out there that will go out of their way to make a statement forcing them to make a cake, thus giving the business money.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:30pm
  28. And that, if you want to do business with the public, you must serve everyone equally. Or, if you want to be a bigot, go into another line of work.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:35pm
  29. Forcing people to realize that their behaviour is unacceptable is correct. Then boycott the homophobes.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:42pm
  30. @Todd If the owner takes it upon them selves to do that, then he now knows he will face the full extent of the Law. What would you choose if it came to it, make the cake or go to jail, or be fined a lot o f money?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:58pm
  31. I’m with Jules

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:19pm
  32. Why would you want to give this company your money in the first place?

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:19pm
  33. if that baker does not want to serve them just go to another damn baker. My Husband and I would just find another baker

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:19pm
  34. It's not about the baker, it's showing them that a business should have no right to discriminate against people that it doesn't like. How would you feel if it was flipped the other way around. And a business turned you away because of your race? You'd probably be pissed. So this isn't about the cake, this is about teaching people to keep their personally life. Personally, and not impose your religious views on a business or other people.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:01am
  35. Would you feel the same way John if this had been a Jewish couple or a Muslim couple or an Iranian couple or an African American couple ???

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:11am
  36. Honestly I don't care what the reason is, if someone does not want my business I will find someone who does, these people are making horrible business decisions, let them put themselves out of business.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:08am
  37. yuck…

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:19pm
  38. You shouldn’t make them make cakes I wouldn’t want to get anything from anyone that’s tainted with hate they can keep it and shove it!

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:20pm
  39. Then, don’t order your wedding cakes at this bigot… uhm… bakery. There are a lot more bakers that will deliver beautiful wedding cakes also for gay couples.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:20pm
  40. What LGBT consumer would want a cake from them now. Great verdict but the damage is already done.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:20pm
  41. Tennent if you’re looking for stuff Dug got stuff on a website, twogrooms.com

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:20pm
  42. I kinda think its bullshit they could have just gone to another bakery i believe in equal rights and that means these people have a right to practice their religion even if that means disagree with gay marriage. I mean thats what it means to be an American to believe what you want even if other people don’t like it

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:21pm
  43. Joseph, would you feel the same way if the couple were Jewish, or Black, or Muslim, or inter-racial? The law is the law. You are not allowed to do this as a business owner.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:23am
  44. Boycott that bakery and purchase the wedding cake in a gay friendly bakery.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:22pm
  45. While I’m all for gay rights, I think this is taking it too far. MUCH too far. I know it’s a step to try and stomp bigotry, but it is within their rights to refuse service to any customer. Then it’s just a matter of voting with your walled. Not to mention, how well would YOU make a cake that someone forced you to make?

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:22pm
  46. It's against the law to discriminate against them. Period.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:55pm
  47. Sorry man, but thats horseshit

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:58pm
  48. Anti-discrimination law is horseshit? Explain.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:01am
  49. Jesus christ, I didnt say anti-discrimination is horseshit, I'm saying to force a company to do this type of crap while preaching that we dont want anyone else's beliefs is horseshit. and yet again, this is something that can be easily solved by voting with your wallet. If a company didnt want to make a cake for me for being Mexican and someone forced them to make me a cake, I wouldnt want it. Now if said business was actively trying to hurt me for being Mexican, then we're talking about a completely different story

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:04am
  50. But the company could actually be hurting you for being Mexican, if say they were the only grocery store for a hundred miles (not so uncommon in those parts) and they wouldn't serve you for being Mexican. Same as being gay. It's an incredibly dangerous precedent to set, and it's simply illegal. Everyone needs to follow the same laws, and cases like these have much larger ramifications than a cake.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:06am
  51. Bro, this happened in a small town of Texas I was in with an auto parts shop. We made shit happen without the law. Simply not getting cake wouldnt hurt me as a Mexican. And the same went for us not allowing a precedent to be set. Simply put, we are forcing people. Make any excuse you want, but I wouldnt want to force someone to accept me by using such means

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:09am
  52. regardless, i think this will simply be something we will have to agree to disagree on

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:11am
  53. Sorry that happened to you, but it's no excuse to allow discrimination of any type. And just because you didn't work within the law doesn't mean the rest of the world shouldn't. Anti-discrimination law applies to places of public accommodation, period, whether cake, food, party supplies, pharmacies, etc. The more cases of this type, the stronger precedent for future cases. That's how the legal system works. You serve the public equally and do not violate non-discrimination laws. Period. End of discussion.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:13am
  54. ^who said we didn't work within the law? I just said we didnt need a law. Making me sound like a damn criminal. Simply put, we forced someone to make a damn cake for someone they didnt want to serve. He has to go against his own beliefs in order to accept someone else's despite the fact that he wasn't goin all Pat Robertson on em. But whatever man. Your world. "Period. End of Discussion."

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:18am
  55. Whatever man. im done

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:20am
  56. Exactly, and fortunately my world, as well as yours, includes actual adults that make shit happen with the law (sorry to mischaracterize you but that's how it sounded). And yes, we forced someone to follow the law. His beliefs have no bearing if they violate the law. And we can agree to disagree, but fortunately, the law agrees with me, not you.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:20am
  57. Whatever you gotta tell yourself bro

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:21am
  58. Haha you're arguing for discrimination and I'm arguing for the law. I think it's beyond clear the law agrees with me. But whatever you gotta tell yourself bro, go discriminate all you like.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:22am
  59. Lol, riiiight.....I'm arguing for discrimination. Yes! Everyone, please discriminate as much as you can! Nothing would make me happier. I'd stay and talk, but I've got some discriminating to do!

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:23am
  60. You are actually. I'm arguing for the law to be followed. It's absurd that would even be up for debate.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:24am
  61. Also, I hope we both never face more serious discrimination, but if we do, these laws will be there for us. As long as they're enforced. Like this.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:25am
  62. For the sake of not feeling like a jerk later on, I'll digress and say I see your point and I am very obviously not on the side of discrimination. I am well aware how the law works and am all for gay rights. But in the end, I can also not feel good about myself forcing someone to SERVE me if they don't want to. It may make people like you feel angry and what not, but I would hate going this route. This is a big reason why more serious discrimination comes about (from firsthand experience) but I'll leave it like this, and leave my love and respect

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:28am
  63. That's very big of you, and I do see your point as well. And believe me, I would hate to pursue something like this, too, but I would for the sake of others. Mostly to make people think twice when discriminating when it's very serious. I hope nothing like that ever happens to you again!

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:37am
  64. HE NEEDS TO BE SWARE OF HE LAWS IN HIS STATE - & BE A TO BE READY TO MOVE WHEN HE CANT DEAL WITH IT - OR GO PRIVATE - CHG MEMBER FEE NO ADVERTISING ETC to allow him to discrim at will

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:14am
  65. Another bigot just got bitch slapped.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:22pm
  66. This is wrong in so many ways.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:22pm
  67. Why would you want to buy a cake form this bigot?

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:24pm
  68. If there’s a law that he’s breaking, then get’em. I don’t know much about business law. I wish the article would explain that aspect instead of just the social decision that was made and argued against.

    This may not make me popular but I see it this way: If the baker doesn’t want to make cakes for occasions that he believes violate his religious tenets, let him refuse. And let the word spread. And post it to Facebook and watch his business falter, if not fail. OR If he prospers, then it will be by those who think the way he does. We cannot force people to change their beliefs, and we cannot force someone to be decent and humane. It’s his own figurative throat he cuts by refusing business to a certain demographic. I wouldn’t go to Masterpiece Bakery and I would tell everyone I know not to go Masterpiece Bakery. And when I share this I will make sure it is clear that we should all avoid Masterpiece Bakery. :)

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:24pm
  69. Tamra, it's not business law that they broke. They broke anti-discrimination law. It would be the same thing if they said, "We don't serve Jews." or Muslims, or the disabled, or blacks!

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:15am
  70. they did tamara - anti discrim law on books in co including sex orientation

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:18am
  71. While I am in complete support of my community and think it is sad that it would take a court order to make any bakery offer same-sex marriage cakes… I do have to wonder if the judge over stepped his bounds… unless the bakery is a publicly traded company a private business should have the right to deny service to anyone (this in turn would mean a gay owned & operated business could refuse service to Mr. & Mrs. J Doe for being heterosexual)

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:25pm
  72. Anti-discrimination law applies to all businesses whether publicly traded or not.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:20am
  73. only private member only clubs do not

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:20am
  74. Why would anyone want his cakes???

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:25pm
  75. Booooom!!!!!

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:25pm
  76. Lol because making wedding cakes is such a straight guy activity :)

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:25pm
  77. WHY would anyone want to get anything from them.
    I hope they go broke.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:26pm
  78. This is really stupid. We are suppose to be bridging the gap Not making it wider…..Go some where else to get your cake, let this bigot have his beliefs, All this is going to do is cause additional animosity between groups…..

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:26pm
  79. This is bridging the gap. Letting people run a business that discriminates against others, just because of their sexuality. Isn't gonna make this better.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:03am
  80. Cheryle, if they had been a Muslim couple or a Jewish couple or an African American couple should THEY just go find a different baker too??

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:13am
  81. Would you really want the cake after the baker is forced to make it?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:53am
  82. It's not about how the cake tastes.... It's about anti-discrimination law and the equal application of it. No one cares if they ate the cake, or how tasty it was.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:02am
  83. The next time an anti gay group goes to a gay owned business for services, the gay owned business will have to provide service bc of this case

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:28pm
  84. I see what you're saying, but would the anti-gay group actually patronize an openly gay owned business? I don't think so.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:34pm
  85. Actually no, political viewpoints aren't covered under anti-discrimination law. Sexual orientation is.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:51am
  86. Its crap like this that makes me mad. The bakery has every right to serve who they want because they own it. I don’t think they should be forced to go against their own beliefs at all. I think the couple should have to go to a different bakery and be ashamed for embarrassing those of us in the gay community who believe in equality for all and not just for our side.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:29pm
  87. "The bakery has every right to serve who they want because they own it." No they don't.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:46am
  88. Agree with Amma and Todd.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:30pm
  89. Here’s my take: If you are ordering any type of food that is to be consumed by friends, family, etc. Why do business with someone who doesn’t like you?
    Even if it’s the principle of the thing you will never know how your end product will be “spiked.” Paranoid? No, I just know how vindictive,mean, small minded and fu&ked up people (some) can be.
    Be it right, wrong, immoral whatever, there are mean people out there so why take a chance that one of these people can ruin something as beautiful as an LGBT marriage!

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:31pm
  90. Charles yeah it’s hard to say. I think the judges path of least resistance would be to simply follow anti discrimination laws. These laws apply to public entities. If you claim to be open to the public, you must abide. On the other hand, reserving the right to refuse service should be the option of a business, even if I disagree with them.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:31pm
  91. I don’t get the belly-aching over this! I am gay and I completely disagree w/ this ruling. Any business ought to be able to deny services to anyone. I wouldn’t like having services denied to me based on my gayness- but truthfully- what does asserting a ruling that forces them to, do to help me at all? Who wants to financially support someone/a business that doesn’t genuinely appreciate, value and support you anyway? Why wouldn’t I opt to channel my spending dollars to one of the many gay or gay-friendly business’ out there instead of forcing a non-supportive business to take my money? That seems wildly counter-productive. So my money ends up going to a business that is NOT gay supportive so I can make a political point- but the gay business across the street dwindles and eventually closes because I gave my $$$ to the joint across the way to make a point? REALLY? That just seems beyond silly. Lastly- if I were a gay business owner and some bigoted ‘phobe entered my shop I ought to be able to deny them service. I ought to be able to show them the door and order them to leave and never return- MY CHOICE. This ruling would prevent that. I’d have to serve the Westboro Baptist Church whackos. And I ain’t about to do that- so I’d get my azz hauled into court, fined and maybe closed! Please folks- STOP being silly. THINK! Be careful what you wish for- CRIMINY SAKES!

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:32pm
  92. Thank you for some common sense.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:00pm
  93. Thank You! Well said.

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:42pm
  94. "what does asserting a ruling that forces them to, do to help me at all?" Ensures equal treatment under the law. With your way of thinking, the only grocery store for a hundred miles doesn't have to sell food to gay people, either. THINK! Be careful what you wish for!

    Replied on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:57pm
  95. What people seem to be forgetting is that it IS ok to deny service to anyone you choose. It becomes ILLEGAL when you state your reason for not serving them is because of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or disability because THAT is discrimination. Now if this company didn't want to serve them and wanted to do so legally they should have politely said that they have too many other orders to take this project on. Instead they CHOSE to be bigots and stated a discriminatory reason for not wanting to serve them. HUGE difference. Yes you may be a bigot, no you may not do so outwardly!

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:10am
  96. Would you REALLY eat a slice of cake that the baker didn't want to make for you in the first place? All while NOT buying from the gay-friendly baker across the street? C'mon.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:23am
  97. If they want to pick and choose who they serve, they shouldn't be working with the public.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 10:49am
  98. I respect that others may feel differently than I- but would never/will never serve the Rev. Fred Phelps from the Westobro Baptist Church, so I have zero interest in legislation that requires him to serve me. What's fair is fair. Lastly: Many gay and gay-friendly business' work dliigently to meet the specialized needs of LGBT clientele- PLEASE consider allowing them the opportunity to serve you and to enjoy the rewards of finacial success that YOUR BUSINESS brings THEIR BUSINESS.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:13pm
  99. There was a time, not that long ago, when people of color were denied the service in many places...there were even signs in store windows stating that. If everybody thought the way you do then it would still be going on!! Yes, there are business owners and employees that may still not want to serve people of color but by law they can't say that. The same should be for gays!

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:57pm
  100. Have you ever heard of the very real & legal practice of placing a sign in a window (they are everywhere) that reads: "We Reserve the Right to Refuse Service to Anyone"?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:59pm
  101. I would be afraid to eat anything from anyone who didn’t want to cook or bake for me.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:32pm
  102. Of course they have to. And of course, I wouldn’t give them my business. Avoid these bigots.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:32pm
  103. I still wouldn’t buy a cake from them; They could just spit or add something to the cake that shouldn’t be there.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:32pm
  104. obviously, as somebody who identifies as queer; i am 110% against homophobes, but imo businesses (however bigoted they may be) should have a right to refuse service to whomever they wish..

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:32pm
  105. Julianna, that's just it they don't have that right. It is called discrimination and it is illegal. What they did is the same as if they told a black couple or Jewish couple or Muslim couple "We don't serve your kind" IT IS ILLEGAL!

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:17am
  106. Mark Jason Bouse: apparently you are unfamiliar with the laws of the United States. Businesses are not allowed to discriminate. I suggest you look up things like “segregation” and “whites only” restaurants, and ask yourself why those things don’t exist anymore.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:32pm
  107. Yes Kevin. Be careful what you wish for.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:33pm
  108. Like telling a baby to share… sad

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:33pm
  109. You people are colossally ignorant and stupid, I swear.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:34pm
  110. The point is that it is not Ok to discriminate against anyone.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:34pm
  111. I wouldn’t buy any cakes from that company. It was made with hate because it sure ant made with love.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:36pm
  112. Where, exactly, does it end, morons? No Jews? No Muslims? No Christians? No Blacks, no Whites, no Hispanics? No women?

    Do you honestly think that eliminating decades upon decades of civil rights victories is a GOOD thing?

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:36pm
  113. Idiots.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:37pm
  114. Mark Jason Bouse the bakery does not have that right to deny service at all it’s against long is discrimination that’s it

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:40pm
  115. You let them do it LGBT who’s to say ethnicities aren’t next.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:40pm
  116. These guys may have their own beliefs and It’s sad that it went as far as this. The customers could have gone to another bakery. However, if you open a business that serves the public, you do not have a right to deny service to the public because of who they are. It’s like denying service to the handicapped because you don’t like their particular handicap. Or like denying use of a water fountain to someone because of their skin color. Owning a business to service the public does not give you the option to pick and choose the public you want to serve. Sad that it had to go to court and have a judge rule in favor of the customer but it is setting an example for everyone that it is not OK to discriminate based on personal beliefs.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:41pm
  117. First of all I am bi-sexual so I am not a hater, but as a free market person I am uncomfortable with this, if these people don’t want to support the LGBT community they should not have to. It is not like they are a hospital and gay people are being turned away from the ER. We are talking a cake, and how good a cake do you think you are going to get by forcing them to make it? If I was forced to make cakes for a group I despised I would make sure they tasted like crap. The answer to this is to support bakeries that support the LGBT community.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:41pm
  118. Bill, they do not have to approve of the marriage they simply are not allowed to say to any one that walks through their doors, "We don't serve your kind here." It is illegal.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:25am
  119. Anissa, I understand your point, but I think these issues are best handled by the marketplace, public pressure, especially now that we have social media will make these people pariahs and put them out of business. If they are stupid enough to not take someone's money that in my opinion should be their right.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:03am
  120. Now see..forcing them to bake is kinda like taking away their freedom, isn’t it?. I mean they suck balls for denying to take someone’s money since that is what they do… but don’t they have the RIGHT to refuse service even if it’s for a bullshit reason? You can’t take one freedom from someone to make up for another’s. Let the public refuse to shop there… strike them where it really hurts- in the wallet. I don’t know…I guess there is no easy answer. But if they had refused service because they were “evil Muslims” or something else would it be a topic of discussion?

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:43pm
  121. "but don't they have the RIGHT to refuse service even if it's for a bullshit reason?" No.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:45am
  122. Bill Stephens, their business is to serve the public. They can’t pick and choose who they want to serve based on personal beliefs and preference. If you don’t want to serve all of the public, then don’t open a business simple as that

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:43pm
  123. I don think it’s a matter of “forcing” someone who’s anti-marriage equality to make a cake for a same-sex couple, but more about business owners being held accountable for not following public accommodation laws. Sexual orientation is a protected class in CO, so this case is very cut and dried from a legal standpoint.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:46pm
  124. Scott, Anti-discrimination laws are Federal and Sexual orientation is part of that law.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:18am
  125. Actually, there are some federal laws about it, but those that apply to sexual orientation are state laws. We're not a protected class federally. Hopefully we will be someday. However, your overall point is dead-on!

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:28am
  126. Thank you Judge for dong the right thing. Gays are just people who want to have a nice cake for their special day.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:46pm
  127. Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:47pm
  128. While I do agree with the boycott of this place I think there is a good reason to also sue them. What happens if somebody puts down a deposit, ordered a cake, and then the bakery decided not to fulfill the order leaving the people scrambling to find another bakery and have to pay considerably more for a rush order.

    There is alway more than what’s reported.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:49pm
  129. That’s fantastic!!! Now let’s all support their competition! =D

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:51pm
  130. Bammmmmmmmm ;)

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:52pm
  131. Awesome!

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:52pm
  132. It’s about serving the public, regardless of who they are. Someone brought up something about an evil Muslim, really? How would you know they were an evil Muslim? You still can’t deny service because they are Muslim. A lot of people here are missing the point.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:53pm
  133. Yeah but who would order one from them now. It could be laced with anything.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:55pm
  134. Gay marriage will become law in all 50 states eventually. This business will not survive when it’s all done. Beliefs will not get the bills paid. So be it!

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 10:55pm
  135. I certainly wouldn’t be eating any cake I needed a court order to get baked for me!!!

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:01pm
  136. How difficult is it to top a cake with two male or two female figurines… really…why hasn’t it always been an option is the real question.
    Oh yeah, don’t believe in gay marriages, don’t have one.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:02pm
  137. People use their religion as an excuse to justify their hateful beliefs. I should use my religion to refuse service to bigots because it says so. See how they like it.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:05pm
  138. I wouldnt’ wanna eat the cake, what if they put something nasty in it out of spite. Boycott the place, spread the word, make your $$$ do the talking.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:06pm
  139. I would NOT buy a cake from them. Who in the hell would if they are FORCED to do so.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:09pm
  140. Im not sure I would want to order from them. They might spit (or worse) in my cake in retaliation.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:09pm
  141. I wholeheartedly agree with Bill Stephens, in this one. I’m openly bisexual and a proud lgbt rights supporter. This store, however, is privately owned. Would you bake a cake for the Westboro Baptist church? I wouldn’t. Don’t be hypocritical. Leave the bigots and go give your $ to a gay friendly company ….they have the right to turn us away, we have a right not to shop there.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:10pm
  142. "they have the right to turn us away" No, they don't.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:53am
  143. Good hope they actually obey the law

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:11pm
  144. I am 100% for same-sex marriage rights, but this is taking it too far. They won’t receive any business from the LGBT community now anyway, and lose a lot of the Allies as well. I know I would never buy from them.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:17pm
  145. Yeah I don’t know how I feel about this one.
    As much as I disagree with them refusing to bake a same-sex marriage cake, I think it’s kinda stupid to force them to do so. This is America, y’know? Since when are we forcing people to do things they don’t want to do?
    I think the baker was a jerk, but ordering the baker to make the cake was a bad choice.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:17pm
  146. They don’t have the right to turn anyone away. That is the point! Publicly traded/privately owned means shit. They serve the public. Whites can’t refuse to serve blacks/Asians/Muslims/etc. same thing. The point that the judge made was they CAN NOT refuse service to anyone because of their own personal beliefs.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:18pm
  147. Yay!! Take that you douchebags!!!! PFFFFFT!!!! LOL

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:20pm
  148. Can u imagine what they might do to the cake.. No way would i have them make my cake.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:22pm
  149. I’m pretty sure I could find someone else to bake my wedding cake…

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:26pm
  150. Really. Who would want a cake from there after that?

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:27pm
  151. I am not sure I agree with this ruling. People have the right to refuse service to anyone. I strongly disagree with these bigots, but it is their right to deny service based on whatever they wish. However, I guess the aspect of refusing service to a “group” or “minority” is where the court came down. In this regard, denying a service to a whole group of people with similar “traits” could be seen as similar to black and white lunch counters.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:28pm
  152. No they do not. It is called discrimination and there are laws against it. It would be the same thing if they were a black couple, a Jewish couple, a Muslim couple....As a business owner you do NOT have the right to look a customer in the eye and say, "We don't serve your kind here."

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:22am
  153. These are the same kind of arseholes at this bakery who would NEVER have served a black person, back in the day. Same freaking people, exactly.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:31pm
  154. Saying this as a gay American…I don’t believe this is right. It is their business. Should they be cruel, rude etc., no, but the gay community should go to an establishment that supports them. Maybe it will open the eyes of the owners, maybe not.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:33pm
  155. I would not give them my business. They might put rat poison in the cake.

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:35pm
  156. I don’t think I agree with this

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:36pm
  157. I thought that the LGBT community was smarter than this. Just because it is their business, doesn’t give them the right to deny service to anyone, regardless of who they are. The pint of the ruling was to show them that if they could not serve the public as a whole, then thy should not be in business.

    The order says the cake-maker must “cease and desist from discriminating” against gay couples.

    Although the judge did not impose fines in this case, the business will face penalties if it continues to turn away gay couples who want to buy cakes.

    Owning a business that serves the public does not give you the option to choose what public you want to serve

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:38pm
  158. Coooooooooolll

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:42pm
  159. Haha

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:45pm
  160. NO GAY people should give this bakery any of our hard earned gay money FUCK them !!!!!!!!

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:45pm
  161. Find another bakery..if people know about the bigots..maybe people will stop buying their goods…and they will..hopefully go out of business…serves them right

    Posted on Friday, December 6, 2013 at 11:52pm
  162. Ha ha you frigging bigoted baker…..now eat this shit pie…

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:05am
  163. Still wouldnt shop there.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:06am
  164. As much as I want to see equality, it was not right of the judge to order those bigots to make cakes for anybody. That is a violation of THEIR rights as business owners. Private business owners have the right to refuse service to anybody, and that’s not something any judge should take away.

    The other side of that is, if a business refuses to serve people based on their sexual orientation or gender identity, that business will lose a bunch of business. It all works out.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:08am
  165. "Private business owners have the right to refuse service to anybody, and that's not something any judge should take away." No they don't.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:47am
  166. Any business that takes what amounts to a contract for service can refuse to accept the contract. Ordering a cake is a contracted service, whereby someone makes the request for a specific service and the company chooses whether or not to provide that service. I'm not going to ever say the people were right for refusing to serve someone due to their prejudice. Let's get that clear. What has me unhappy is that some judge just forced a small business to accept any and all contracts they are offered for their services, no matter what. That takes away the freedom of running their own business. Oh, and you're dead wrong about businesses not being able to refuse service. Bars do it all the time, and no judge has ever forced them to provide service every time they are asked.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 7:02am
  167. Great but they still wouldn’t get a dime of my money!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:10am
  168. im from colorado, and amma has a good point here.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:13am
  169. Heather Gray

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:13am
  170. I would buy a cake from them to prove a point. As long as they have a business license, they have to abide by the contract of their license which states they cannot discriminate. And to piss them off.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:17am
  171. really I think going somewhere that wnats your business and will do their best to help you celebrate would be the better choice, you only od it once why risk them adding a “surprise” or doing something terrible becuase they ahve to serve you as a community we need to stop suing to make people serve us and make them have to advertise their anti-gay so we can avoid them and their meaness

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:19am
  172. No way in hell I’d order a cake from them.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:19am
  173. I wouldn’t buy a cake or anything else from a company that was forced to sell me something. If the company is so bigoted that it has to be forced to comply with the law. God only knows what those bigots would add to the cake. But I’m guessing it would not be in the recipe!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:22am
  174. That’s dumb

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:24am
  175. I don’t see why they are forced to sell cakes … I would never buy from them knowing how ignorant they are ….. The courts didn’t do a thing by forcing them ….

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:27am
  176. Bowser Nmdm Captain I totally agree with your point of view …

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:31am
  177. Jay, you realize the it is called discrimination and it is illegal federally to say to any one that walks into your place of business "We don't serve your kind here." That is what this is about. Ok, so Bowser and his friends decided to handle it w/out involving the law - yay. Doesn't make what that car parts company did any less illegal and the same goes for all businesses.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:28am
  178. Good. They are in a business to serve the Publc by law. If they don’t like it, thy shouldn’t be in business.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:34am
  179. i hope no one orders from this bakery LGBTQ people anyway…they might do something not very nice to the batter or the icing or something…get your cakes and sweets somewhere else or make em your own self…our communities thru out this country have very talented bakers and chefs etc…contract one of them…really…

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:35am
  180. The number of people cheering their own discrimination (with immunity at that) here is disturbing to say the least. Wow.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:42am
  181. They will probly poison them pick another bakery.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:45am
  182. So…all of you folks who think it’s okay for this bakery to discriminate because of their “beliefs”, do you also believe it would be okay for them to discriminate against other groups? People with brown skin, for instance, or almondine eyes? People with kids? People without kids? It’s all discrimination…

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:54am
  183. Ugh my comment got erased….making it shorter this time. I don’t think we should be making people do things they don’t want to do. If they don’t want to make a cake for same sex couples then let them do what they want. I understand it’s about rights for both sides and discrimination but why would you want to buy a cake from someone who doesn’t support GLBT community? Make them suffer in the sense of losing clientele by not supporting their business. I wouldn’t trust what they make if they don’t like the GLBT community. They probably don’t realize it but I’m sure with the rising GLBT communities in several states about a third or more of their clientele are gay or lesbian they just probably never asked to have a wedding cake done.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:54am
  184. I love Colorado!!!!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:02am
  185. So if they put on a sign not a public establishment and only reserved for heterosexuals that would b wrong too? At one point where can we let straight people have their own idea of family values and b proud of them. Gay people are too pushy when it comes to this. No wonder we have hate crimes in the world. We r trying to force our happiness in the measures of taking away someone else’s. We r no different then the straight people. Its times like this I am ashamed to be a gay man! My parents became more tolerant and accepting of me when I stopped forcing it down their throat…

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:15am
  186. It's anti-discrimination law, not about the owners' beliefs.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:08am
  187. And to answer your question: "So if they put on a sign not a public establishment and only reserved for heterosexuals that would b wrong too?" Yes. And illegal.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:08am
  188. Fuck off Anissa Roberts! I was merely thinking aloud. Read the rest of my post!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:26am
  189. It truly terrifies me the number of people on here that have this warped sense of this some how falling outside of the Federal Anti-Discrimination Laws. What this company did is illegal. Period. No business, anywhere in the US, has the right to say to a customer, “We don’t serve your kind here.” No matter how politely they say it or what their reasons are – it is illegal! It would be the same if they were a Black couple, an inter-racial couple, a Muslim couple, a Jewish couple – it does not matter what “type” of couple it is – IT IS DISCRIMINATION AND IT IS ILLEGAL!!!!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:32am
  190. This is wrong. Hate of any kind is bad. Don’t misunderstand. But to FORCE businesses to do something that goes against their beliefs is wrong.

    So much for not forcing the gay agenda, guys.

    Whatever happened to equality? Does a business owner not also have equal rights?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:37am
  191. They don't have the right to discriminate against people based on certain traits, sexual orientation being one. Which is equal rights.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:35am
  192. To bad men like me helped bitches like you to have the ability to vote. Peace and love. P.S. perhaps we should segregate schools again.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 6:01am
  193. …. Anissa Roberts I don’t need anyone to change my opinion to each their own

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:38am
  194. That is stupid by force really ?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:39am
  195. Nice that justice and equality were fought for and won, but I certainly would NEVER give them my business, nor would I trust eating anything they made for any gay couples. I say just make sure the community is educated on the beliefs of this business and decline giving them any business!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:39am
  196. Same reason weather it was jewish or inteter racial still easier just to go some where else

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:40am
  197. Wouldn’t the more fitting consequence be a drop in their profits from the loss of GLBT folks and their allies? It seems this way, we look like the bad guys, stomping on someone else’s freedom… :-/

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:40am
  198. we didnt co law did

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:21am
  199. I own a business. Every business has the right to refuse to serve someone. That’s one of the perks of owning your own damn business.

    This couple is making every single one of us look exactly like what we’ve been accused of all along.

    If I have a customer come in to my studio who wants heavy Christian themed portraits, I’d politely tell them I wasn’t comfortable with that sort of shoot and give them the name and number of a very good Christian photographer in my area. That’s called preference and if we’re allowed to voice ours, how is it right to silence someone else’s?!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:45am
  200. becase he was a dumb as & opened his trap is why it was a court case - anti discrim law--- He gave them the win when he opened his mouth

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:17am
  201. I would love to know when the fight against discrimination began being fought with discrimination.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:21am
  202. I THINK THAT SHOULD CUZ IT’S GOOD BUSNESS,BUT I FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD’NT HAVE TO!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:46am
  203. This is fucking awful precedence

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:54am
  204. Because people should be able to discriminate with immunity?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:03am
  205. I would not order a cake from them any way. And I’ve told all my friends.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:58am
  206. So I am going to sue Starbucks to serve me when I have a hand gun in my holster. They are legal in a lot of states.
    Where will it end- this erosion of freedom. These ignorant bastards had to prove their point and have set the gay movement back again!
    Bravo douche bags- let them eat cake!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:58am
  207. Gun ownership isn't protected by anti-discrimination law.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:03am
  208. This is wrong. The couple can go to another bakery to get their cake. This is a violation of the bakers rights.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:02am
  209. No, it's not

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:28am
  210. BTW, I never said that what they are doing is not discrimination, or that I agree with what they did. But, why would a gay couple/straight allies want to give this establishment their hard earned money when they can find a supportive gay friendly or gay owned bakery to bake their special wedding cake?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:06am
  211. Jay what if these people lost customers because they had a very conservative clientele.
    I don’t agree with it- trust me.
    However, people that put their life work in a business should have some control of whom they serve. It is a slippery slope but again, it is bad precedence.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:06am
  212. It's not. It's anti-discrimination law and they violated it. The precedent will help others in the future, when it's much more serious.. You can't discriminate based on certain traits and in Colorado, sexual orientation is one of those traits.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:10am
  213. I understand that it is law- I just personally believe that it is getting into a grey area and I think that the community needs to be more cautious in picking their battles.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:18am
  214. There's no grey area in this. They violated the law, period.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:24am
  215. Samantha Morrow hit the nail on the head.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:21am
  216. although I disagree with the baker I also don’t agree she should be forced to do anything

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:28am
  217. Boycott that bakery and put those bigots out of business

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:39am
  218. Unreal with these idiots. I would ban the bakery and tell everyone to do the same.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:49am
  219. If the roles were reversed everyone would be celebrating..that’s how fucked up this is…

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:49am
  220. hell ya we are no diff

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:50am
  221. What of they refused to serve blacks? Oh wait, businesses used to do that. It’s wrong, plain and simple. But if it were me, I’d take my business elsewhere and tell my friends to as well.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:50am
  222. I wouldn’t eat their cake!!!!! They’re probably going to put something nasty in it!!!!!!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:57am
  223. I am gay, BUT I think this is wrong. businesses should have the right to refuse service. Go to another baker not court. We are fighting for civil rights not the right to trample other peoples rights.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:05am
  224. as a lesbian I don’t agree with this. I wouldn’t shop there, but they should not be forced to serve the community. they might poison us.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:06am
  225. Fighting hate with hate, fighting discrimination with discrimination. Just like sexual orientation, religion and beliefs are a right. When did something that should be celebrated suddenly fall to this kind of level? It makes it just as bad as saying, you can’t get married because i dont like it. You can’t believe what you want to believe because I don’t like it. Feels like a giant step backwards for the noble cause.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:35am
  226. Too late,my money isn’t good enough for him!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:39am
  227. I’m quite sure there are other bakers out there would have made his cake for him

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:50am
  228. Who wants their dried up nasty old cake anyway?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:53am
  229. i would spend my money else where–they will probally spit in the cake anyway

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:54am
  230. The judge is just enforcing the State’s anti-discrimination law.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:55am
  231. Sorry wouldn’t trust them making a wedding cake for me.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:55am
  232. Kristi Kloepfer

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:59am
  233. Stupid ppl… Quit saying “it’s too late I don’t want his cake now anyway”. That’s great he has a pure religious belief that he shares with a BILLION other ppl of different religions… Not just Christianity … Muslims also… and Buddhist as well. Here is the point >HE DID NOT WANT ANY OF YOUR GAY AND LESBIAN MONEY BECAUSE IT IS AN ABOMINATION BEFORE GOD. < so quit acting like you all won a fkin award or something. All you did with your deprived view of sexuality is deprive other Americans of their INHERENT GOD GIVEN RIGHTS. Thank you and God have mercy on you all.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:01am
  234. I think gay couples will boycott them.. I also, think they have been “outed”…..This is a good thing.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:10am
  235. I agree that no one should support a bigoted company. I wouldnt even trust them to even make my cake, they may’ve spit it in or put razors in it…You never know. If possible, find a gay owned bakery shop…FUBU(For Us, By Us) style

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:10am
  236. why hell if they wont make ur cake there are 10 other bakeries who will i dont see the point to take it to court

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:12am
  237. While I would happily boycott the place this did serve to make it clear that you cannot use this type of excuse to justify your discrimination.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:13am
  238. how stupid are people…sheeesh…..

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:18am
  239. Now would you trust this hater to make your cake? I don’t think so.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:20am
  240. Did they serve menstruating women? Do the were mixed fabric? Do they shave? Abomination? More like hypocrisy.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:51am
  241. I’m all for equality but how fucking dare you force PRIVATE businesses to do what they don’t want to do? If they want to be bigots, so be it… Make it known and boycott them and drive them out of business… But this is a gross disrespect of the free market and all of you should be ashamed.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:55am
  242. He is a fucking dickbag but forcing him to serve people against his will is even dickbaggier. Total bullshit.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:56am
  243. Josh Catterton you and others like you are the only abomination in this world and we will all bw so happy when we are rid of you

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 5:20am
  244. BOOM!! Make mine red velvet beeeatch!!!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 5:26am
  245. Now that I have that of my chest, I am glad that everyone is being treated equally.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 5:27am
  246. If they refuse then isn’t that their business? We don’t want to buy from them anyway…as a person in business its like I don’t want to serve someone. Its within our rights to say hey I don’t want to serve you…in a nice way of course…

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 5:50am
  247. People need to be aware of how they treat others. Homophobia is (well, in my terms) absolutely intolerable and unacceptable.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 5:52am
  248. I think the judge is right to make this call because once you open a business in public domain, you don’t get to hide behind private privilege near as much as the way gated communities are arranged. That said, these people being dragged to court don’t deserve to be in business. “AGENDAs” are bad for business and they (like all other commercial enterprises) need to be schooled by the communities they claim to be serving. Declare war on my fellow countrymen, you have deleted your right to exist in free society. Gay, black, eskimo… I don’t care who or what. It’s high time these other people interpreting ‘rights’ as the right to abuse all others find another country to live in because America is taken. Perhaps Afghanistan is more in keeping with their personal philosophies.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 5:57am
  249. I wouldn’t want to give them MY money! Better to publicize their bigotry and let people vote with their wallets.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 6:05am
  250. I totally do not agree that the couple should be made to serve someone they don’t want to, we want our rights to live and marry and be free to love who we want, this is like taking these folks rights away to be who they are. I hate that they feel they can’t serve all kinds of customer service including same sex couples and it is their loss, but it should be at their discretion rather we like it or not.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 6:28am
  251. What’s wrong, Shane? Can’t make your point stick so you’ve resorted to insults? I’m shocked, really. I’ve never known a man to get his feelings hurt and lash out like a douche canoe before. Totally surprised by that one, truly.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 6:59am
  252. I would not order a cake from any business that has been ordered to do so. F*ck that!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 7:02am
  253. I mean Shawn. You just didn’t stick out as important. Sorry about that.

    And unless you’re a man who owns a great deal of property and more than one Slave, you’re one of the men who were left out of the constitution, precious. Someone had to fight to give YOU the right to vote. Idiot.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 7:02am
  254. They might do to that cake what the housekeeper in the movie The Help did to her special pie. No thank you.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 7:29am
  255. If the bakery doesn’t want to accommodate for someone (I mean everyone), why would you fork over your hard earned money over to them, especially when it comes down to food. Another competitor would be glad to have their business.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 7:34am
  256. I think I agree with most here. It DOES offend me and upset me that somebody would be bigoted toward anyone, but I still be believe in individual rights and free speech on both sides. So I would say the same; just go to another baker and support them with your patronage and let the other guy reap what he sows.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 7:40am
  257. “antiethical”…. Wow… real genius right here.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 8:49am
  258. I’m sure not there business will continue due to their arrogance & contempt or just having no customers any longer, good riddance to bad rubbish

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 9:16am
  259. Shut up John Micah Pickering you sound as bad as these bigots

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 9:18am
  260. money is money regardless, cause at the end of the day money still stays geen and black all year long till it tears age as it ages

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 9:31am
  261. Smh. I dont know how he will do it now. Poor guy has to go against his religion to do sonething he doesnt believe in. What happened to thus being land of the free?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 9:32am
  262. Xoxo Big Gay Love

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 9:54am
  263. YES!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 10:15am
  264. Sorry, but I can’t agree with FORCING a company to offer something they don’t want to sell, any more than I agree with the bigotry involved in their refusal to do so. It sets an EVIL precedent! What happens when some other group wants to force YOUR business to do things you disagree with? It will be supported by THIS unconstitutional decision… It seems that if all homosexuals, and “friendlies” in the wedding industry shunned this company, they would have gone out of business, or at least reconsidered their stand

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:00am
  265. The point is that they violated CO law. You don't think a business should be held accountable for violation of laws?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:58pm
  266. In a way, I get it, but unless a couple lives where there’s only one bakery for miles around, they should take business elsewhere.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:48am
  267. why would they want to shop there?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 12:57pm
  268. Religion needs to stay out of people’s personal business as does the government there are religious communities that if these people don’t feel the need to let people live their lives they can move to a like minded community once you deal with the public means there will be all kinds of different unique individuals embrace the difference this is not yours to be saying anything or judging anyone by the way doesn’t your bible say I am not my brothers keeper judge ye not an ye shall not be judged

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:00pm
  269. Boycott the business !

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:05pm
  270. Love it Col x

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:24pm
  271. This is bullshit, you don’t force a business to do anything. Fuck you government.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 1:29pm
  272. While I agree that people shouldn’t discriminate, I would rather know that the company doesn’t make cakes for same sex ceremonies…. so I could take my business elsewhere for cakes and everything else.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:21pm
  273. I have to say I disagree with this first as a business owner he should have the right to run it the way he see’s fit, just as e have a choice not to spend our money with him i also would not want anything he made as I would be concerned about what may be in it. IJS

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:35pm
  274. I’d certainly be ‘cautious’ about eating a cake this baker was forced to make.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 2:56pm
  275. cake would probably be sour anyway >_< lol

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:00pm
  276. They don’t need a fucking court order. Nobody should force these morons to do business with people they do not want to. Besides, those bad business policies will leave the bakers out of business anyways

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:32pm
  277. As a gay man I would not buy anything from them. As a small business in a struggling economy, why on Earth would they deny themselves revenue from two people who love each other? Fxxxing idiots!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:39pm
  278. I agree also they might spit or anything in it.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:50pm
  279. Governments impose a number of rules on small businesses for reasons of public safety, tax collection, worker safety, and fair business practices. While I’m honestly gloating a little at their getting hand-slapped, I don’t think this is the answer.

    Would you feel any different about a jewish bakery refusing to serve muslims? Or an african-american bakery refusing to serve asians?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:55pm
  280. I do not agree. It’s his business he should be able to serve who he wants too. However he should have to post a sign stating this prominently on his front door. You know like “I only serve narrow minded homophobic bible thumpers” or to be more direct “Faggots not welcome!!” This sign should be 18″x24″ and placed at eye level on the front door.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 3:58pm
  281. I mean im down for the cause and I like that the judge is all proactive, but is it even legal for a court to determine who a private business owner can and cannot serve? I am no award winning legal mind…but im pretty sure that the court doing this is as every but unconstitutional as Denying me the right to marry because i want to marry a dude…im not mistaken right…like this is Kind of Bullshit.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:11pm
  282. They probably poisoned the cake!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:14pm
  283. dont trust them still they will probably spit in it

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:30pm
  284. I’m glad there are gays against this!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:44pm
  285. This one will be easily overturned in appeals court. He’s a private baker & can reserve the right to refuse to deal with anyone. & why bother to deal with someone like this who hates you? Vote with your feet & take your business to firms & people who support basic human rights for all.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 4:45pm
  286. ok im all for equality and everything but we do have religious freedom , if they want to do this soley becaus ethey feel its against their religion , go to another bakery , dont force sumone to accept you , thats the opposite of what you are trying to achieve

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:32pm
  287. you have freedom of and from religion. but that does not give you a damned right to discriminate another person.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:36pm
  288. My thoughts exactly. I mean, sure, I think that anyone who refuses to serve someone because he/she gay is just as bad as refusing to serve someone because he/she is black, but even though I think it's douchey, it is still the baker's right.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:36pm
  289. no it doesnt but you have no right to FORCE them to serve you

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:37pm
  290. the cake business is open to the public that means all of the public if they want to make it a private one they can discriminate all they want but as long as its open to the public a business can not discriminate

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:39pm
  291. they cant but still you would rather force them to agree with us than to just leave them be and let them live with the hate and guilt , either way that cake will be made with hate and disgust. they wont make it well

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:40pm
  292. the moment they run a public business they have to adhere to fundamental human rights. If they cannot do that, then close the doors. If they refused to make you a cake based on your skin colour, would you be saying the same thing? Bigotry is bigotry, intolerance is intolerance - does not matter how you try and gloss it. They are wrong, they are breaking the law. Using religion to justify their own intolerance and hatred is wrong. it is not christian, it is not american.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:42pm
  293. Baking cakes has nothing to do with religion or practicing religion, dumbass.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:42pm
  294. How would you feel if you went there to order and they didn't want to have you as a customer because of the color of your skin? It's pretty much the same thing. It's something you can't change about yourself, and something that doesn't effect their life at all, and it does not hurt someone to just treat them as any other customer. It's unprofessional to refuse service to someone just because you don't agree with the way they live their life/who they are. "I'm all for equality", yet you're condoning their behavior, which sets equality far back. If you use that excuse of "freedom of religion", what happens if EVERY bakery they went to told them the same thing? Then what? Wanting to buy something from a business is not trying to force them to accept you, they just want to be treated as any other customer.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:42pm
  295. then carry yo ass else where , if your s/o hated you would you force them to like yo ass and stay or simply FIND SOMEONE WHO LOVES YOU . damn is it that hard , let em discriminate when they lose business because people realize how terrible they are then they will turn around all this is doing is proving the fucking republicans righ tthat we are forcing our lifestyle on people. YOU CANNOT DO THAT. like i said im all for it but this is wrong its just wrong . let come to the light on their own , dont force them against their will .

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:45pm
  296. Prince, I expect you would say the same thing to Rosa Parks. take "yo ass else where, if your s/o hated you would force them to like you." Would you tell Linda Brown to take yo ass else where? ( Brown vs. board of education, just in case you did not know who faught for your rights to equality) Or maybe tell teh Little Rock Nine to take yo ass else where ( Even though President Eisenhower sent troops in to protect thier rights to equality)

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:51pm
  297. You also cannot just condone the behavior and just ignore it and tell them it's okay to do that, because it's not okay. Ignoring his discrimination and allowing him to continue doing so helps nothing. If you don't stand up to someone and tell them they're doing something wrong, but you instead just turn your eyes away and ignore it, that does not help anything to change in this world if we all turn our eyes away and let discrimination continue. Sure, it's not "nice" to "force" him to do it, but it wasn't nice of him to force his religious beliefs on that couple by refusing service to them simply because he doesn't like the way they live their lives.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:54pm
  298. WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH RACE. im talking about fucking sexual orientation not skin color

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:55pm
  299. he didnt force it on them , simply said no.. just in a harsh manor with a dumb ass reason behind it .

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:56pm
  300. No one is forcing the lifestyle on him, no one is asking him to support it, they're just asking him to do his job as a business owner and sell his products, no matter if he likes the person or not. You can't run a PUBLIC business based off of only selling to a group of people you like. Excluding people simply because you do not like/agree with something about them, that's wrong. You have to treat all your customers fairly.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:58pm
  301. Can you change your skin colour? NO> you are BORN that way. Can a gay man change his orientation, NO - we are born that way. Discrimination is discrimination - does not matter what flavor the hate it - it is still as strong. Did you forget religion was used as a means to justify slavery and banning interracial marriages... You have not read history - you have not learned what the people have suffered before you, so that you can have the opportunities you have today.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:58pm
  302. thankfully for you Prince religion can't be used to dictate who you can refuse service to...it wasn't that long ago that the bible and religion were used to justify slavery and discrimination against blacks (read the biblical story of Ham often used to prove blacks were lesser and cursed)...you'd be still drinking out of the colored only fountain if religion was allowed to dictate human rights!

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:59pm
  303. Prince Thomas, the business is open to the public. They provide wedding cakes. As such, they must provide them to anyone who asks for one. The business can't refuse service just because they don't approve of a "lifestyle". The business owner can either take wedding cakes off their list of products they sell, or follow the laws governing ALL businesses which are open to the public. The only other option is to create a membership-based "club". Then their rules for membership can be as discriminatory as they wish.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:59pm
  304. OH YES YOU CAN!! plenty of people bleach , tan , surgery etc vitelago all that shit changes your skin!. can you help who you love no you cannot . ive learned alot and read all that i should have in school dont go there sir , get ya life and swerve ,

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:59pm
  305. it wasnt talking about blacks just so you know also the current bible isnt the original text its been changed multiple times also thousands of missing books from it sooo keep it comming cause yall just making my night lmao

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:01am
  306. prince it is sad that you are so blind to hatred. I pity you,

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:01am
  307. blind to hatred ...dude , im fat , ,,, black .....and pansexual ...dont go there.

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:02am
  308. does not matter, you are filled with hate. you are allowing others to discriminate based on religion. Using religion as a tool for ones hatred is terrible. Some day you will learn that mate.

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:03am
  309. im not allowing it at all i just siimply dont agree with forcing someone to do anything they do not wish to do . God dont like that , we have free will for a reason you know . look its wrong as hell that they think this way but we cant force change . change takes time .. we have to be patient .

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:04am
  310. you have free will - till you abridge anothers rights...

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:36am
  311. Forcing hm? Just when I thought you said the stupidest thing ever, you keep talking.

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:44am
  312. The responsibility is on the OWNER not the customer for what service he provides. He makes cakes. He denied that service, why? Personal bias has no place in serving the public. I don't agree with recreational drug use. Do I have the right to drug test my customers to determine whether or not I'll serve them? Of course not. On another note, did women wait to be given the right to vote? Hell no! Did African Americans wait to be treated equally with whites? Hell no! So what makes you think LGBT people should sit on their asses and wait "patiently", to be treated with respect? What's the difference, and why are you personally willing to accept less?

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:08am
  313. Well, that escalated quickly...

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:53am
  314. That’s ignorant in my opinion, Thomas. I dont understand how we can be discriminated against in a public establishment and turn a blind eye to the reason why. What if African Americans were against a religion, could they turn us down, and would we be ok with just going to another bakery?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:34pm
  315. if you arent wanted why stay ????

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:36pm
  316. you will never be wanted EVERYWHERE but you will be wanted SOMEWHERE . they dont desrve our money then why even fight them , let them bust their faces

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:37pm
  317. I was just saying the whole religious freedom thing, and I dont feel like it should pertain to bakeries. But I guess that is a personal opinion.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:38pm
  318. There is nothing religious about baking cakes, running a restaurant, cutting hair or providing ANY service to the general public.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:51pm
  319. Thank you..

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:51pm
  320. I agree Prince Thomas

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:34pm
  321. I surely would go somewhere else.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:35pm
  322. The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. - Albert Einstein

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:44pm
  323. Who would want a cake baked by a Hater? I’m sad the issue ever came up. Go to Gay Baker!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:36pm
  324. all wedding parties deserve cake

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:37pm
  325. I disagree with this completely. Yes, even as a gay man, I disagree with this. The business owner has the right to refuse service to anyone he/she/they want. This is still a free country (at least for now). In my opinion, Mullins & Craig should have just moved on, and taken their money elsewhere. It’s not like Masterpiece Cakeshop is the only bakery in Denver. I know this opinion of mine is going to p.o. a lot of friends, but so be it.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:37pm
  326. and you are wrong :)

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:42pm
  327. You're just as stupid as members of the KKK.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:43pm
  328. Why? because I think every business has the right to refuse service? If the business doesn't want the money...move on to someone that does. It's really simple.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:44pm
  329. and according to the LAW, he's not free to refuse service to anyone. That's where you are wholly wrong.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:45pm
  330. So legally, can they deny me service because Im black? Or because I have a tongue piercing? Or Im wearing rainbow socks?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:53pm
  331. Would that still apply if they were black? Jewish? etc?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:54pm
  332. Because you're black, I highly doubt it... The tongue piercing? I really couldn't say. The rainbow sock? Perhaps. :)

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:54pm
  333. My point is that, is it legal, Steve?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:55pm
  334. Mr. Peonio, what you think is not the point. The law is the point.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:58pm
  335. Since I'm not an attorney...I really couldn't say. But honestly, to me it's so simple...he didn't want the money, so go to a baker that does. Like I said above, if he had lied about why he wouldn't do it, nothing would have been said...but because he was honest and stuck by his beliefs, he's to be made out to be a bad person.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:58pm
  336. And going running to an attorney each time we don't get our way is going to help our case?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:59pm
  337. In the state of Colorado, a business cannot discriminate against patrons for a number of criteria, one of which is sexual orientation. The business owner does not have the right to refuse to serve gay people, just as he does not have the right to serve people who are of a race he doesn't like. That's the law in Colorado.

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:59pm
  338. So he should have just lied about his reason for not wanting to do the cake, and then all would have been good. Right?

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:01am
  339. if he's so religious then I guess he wouldn't be making too many cakes at all...if he is so religious he should be refusing to bake cakes for couples who have had pre-marital sex or previous divorces too but alas only gay couples hit his religious radar!!

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:05am
  340. Steven, it's sad people want to bash your opinion. Everybody feels differently on certain topics...this is why people in the gay community can't be taken seriously. They want to bash anyone who doesn't have the same beliefs as they do. I am a gay male, and as I don't agree with his post, I'm not going to be an ignorant asshole about it. "To each his own." is something maybe you all should think about...just throwing it out there. Lol. every single person in this beautiful country has the right to their own opinion, so shut the fuck up, and move on!

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:37am
  341. You are an idiot. Im sorry, we are trying so hard to fight for our rights, and you go around speaking backwards logic.

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:40am
  342. Michael is right on the money... We want people to accept us, but if they don't then we call them haters, bigots, etc. That's the same kind of closed mindedness we accuse them of. And I'm just as guilty as anyone else in the community. No one is going to ever accept everyone. All I'm saying is that there are more important fights to be had than over a baker. Personally, when my man & I get married, we'll be going to a "gay friendly" bakery for the cake, etc. I'd much rather give my hard earned money to one of our own.... plus they would probably have a much more fabulous selection than a non-gay friendly bakery, LOL

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:47am
  343. It's okay to disagree Steven. I think you're mentally ill. If you can't agree with this simple human right issue. I don't think you have the right to breath free air. That's my opinion. Ps I bet if every drug store refuse to fill your Meds you would be pissed. It's a business too cup cake. But so be it ........ Hugs!!

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:48am
  344. asking someone to bake a fucking cake when that is the public business they run is NOT forcing them to accept anything but a fucking cake order!!

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:49am
  345. Slight difference there Ricco, most people don't go into a pharmacy and say "fill my prescription...and by the way, I'm gay" :)

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:50am
  346. so as long as we don't look gay, sound gay, or say we're gay we get to enjoy the same services?? Um ok

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:55am
  347. no one said that at all Louise ROFL How many people actually make it a point to go around announcing "hey, I'm gay"? The people that I know in the LGBT community don't. They simply live their lives, and if the subject comes up, the response is usually more along the lines of "yeah, so?" You've completely missed my point, but this is a perfect example of what was mentioned above about closed mindedness. If someone's opinion doesn't match your, it's automatically wrong. LOL It is truly a shame that the same amount of energy that is being expended on a simple baker can't be directed towards more important issues like Marriage Equality, or legislation that prevents companies from firing someone simply because they are LGBT. Now, those types of issues are important...and will have a benefit for everyone in the long run. Anyway, y'all have a good night. :)

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:13am
  348. I am thoroughly disgusted with people name-calling and being so nasty just because Steven doesn't agree with forcing a bigot to provide service to a gay couple. How can you people be so judgmental and cruel, saying he doesn't deserve to breathe air, saying he's mentally ill, and some worse things, all because he has a different opinion that relates to business rights? You people are worse than the bigots.

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:14am
  349. You're right, John. People should be able to discriminate because their imaginary friends say so :P

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 2:00am
  350. I believe that until our Government keeps their religious beliefs out of their political decisions it has no right to mandate that a owner should keep their religious beliefs out of their business. A business has the right to refuse service. Why would you even want to give your money to a business that doesn’t support you/your lifestyle – particularly if they are forced to comply and it is begrudgingly? Is there not one bakery in your area that would appreciate your business.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:38pm
  351. Please name a law that requires you to have a religious belief?

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:46pm
  352. So you're suggesting it's okay for a business to choose to refuse to serve racial minorities, women, religious minorities, and anyone they happen to disagree with or disapprove of? You do understand why we have the Civil Rights Act, don't you?

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:19am
  353. I’ll make them a cake! MAY not be the best looking cake but it will be a Tasty cake! ^_^

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:39pm
  354. i dont agree with this.. but is the bakery also discriminating against divorced couples getting married again and again? or other couples of other religions…

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:40pm
  355. very good point

    Replied on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:47pm
  356. I got a hot flash for you, this was why we got gay rights laws passed
    in this country.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:42pm
  357. I wouldn’t want them to have my money. Support LGBT friendly businesses. When I married a DJ said he didn’t do gay marriages. I thanked him for being honest and found people that deserved my business. I spread the word about the business that said no and hopefully they lost business.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:44pm
  358. That's the way minor things like this should be handled...there are plenty of other businesses out there that 1. will take the money, and 2. support the LGBT community. A Google search turned this up.... http://www.gayweddings.com/wwvendors?f-zip=Denver%2C+CO&f-cat=cake&e-search=1

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:18am
  359. It’s a public bakery, they shouldn’t be able to discriminate against anyone. But with that being said WHY would anyone want to spend their hard earned money there knowing that these people don’t want your business?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:45pm
  360. I’m glad you can’t pick n choose when your a public company I still wouldn’t patronage them!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:46pm
  361. Cute cake!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:47pm
  362. I think the baker is a backwoods jerk who can’t get his head out of his own ass as he tries to time travel back into the 50′s but Cheezus let him fade into freaking obscurity and don’t force his ignorant ass to bake a cake he’s gonna stick his teeny weenie into out of spite! Sorry for all the hyperbole.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:50pm
  363. For all of you ignorant asses out there, look up the law and read the ruling before commenting.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:52pm
  364. Why would it have to be orderd? What assholes!

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:56pm
  365. I doubt it. I doubt the judge “ordered” anybody to bake a cake for anybody.

    I’ll bet it was more like this: “You’re not going to discriminate in this city. You’re going to treat all your customers the same. So ***IF*** (their choice) you want to continue baking & selling cakes, ***THEN*** here’s something else you’re going to do. . .” etc. etc.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:56pm
  366. Bryna Dawn Carter finally someone who gets it. It only makes others think we are forcing our lifestyle on them. For God sakes go to a gay owned and operated business.

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:56pm
  367. WooHoo!! I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that way. :)

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:36am
  368. asking someone to bake a fucking cake when that is the public business they run is NOT forcing them to accept anything but a fucking cake order!!

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:59am
  369. I am NOT fucking forcing my lifestyle on ANYONE! I want PUBLIC businesses to be DISALLOWED to discriminate.....PERIOD!

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:52am
  370. What the fuck? It’s a private business and as such the owner should retain the right to be a biggot if they so choose. At this point, why would you insist on giving him your money after he’s shown to clearly dislike you and everything your special day stands for?

    Posted on Saturday, December 7, 2013 at 11:57pm
  371. The owner "retains the right to be a bigot." However he does not retain the right to break anti-discrimination laws.

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:16am
  372. Christina Norman, no business is public, they are actually considered private property. At least in most normal states.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:01am
  373. Wrong, Steven. You're arguing two separate facts, and they do not necessarily coincide, especially in this case. It may be a privately owned (not publicly traded) business, but it is open to the general public. Which means they serve the same products to all who enter the establishment, without discrimination.

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:08am
  374. Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:01am
  375. I say take your business elsewhere. The Str8 baker will eventually learn when no one buys cakes from him anymore. If he wants to make a profit, he better make gay themed cakes and forget who is purchasing them or go broke…….Alan

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:03am
  376. I wouldn’t give them one penny of my money ever.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:03am
  377. I’m glad then won, would I eat his cakes Hell no!!! But in the bigger picture this set a presidence for future court cases. Yes there are bigots and religious zealous ppl , but bottom line it’s discrimination.. it goes on all over, today justice is served

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:04am
  378. ha..hows that karma working for ya..

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:05am
  379. This doesn’t seem right. The baker should have the right to run his business his way. If I want my rights, he needs to retain his….

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:05am
  380. That’s just rude, rude, rude!

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:05am
  381. Prince ThomasPrince, gays can be just as hateful and bigoted towards straight people. I see it all the time.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:07am
  382. if its legal im sure many companies will benefit not just a bakery,,,shut up and make the cakes…for christs sake

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:08am
  383. I know the difference. It is considered private property by law. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, please refrain from commenting. Kthxbai.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:12am
  384. I'll say it again (since you deleted your previous comment and my response along with it), it doesn't matter if it's private property. It's a business open to the public, therefore they must serve all customers without prejudice. Why are you denying this fact?

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:44am
  385. I wont call you a names Scott. You're saying drug stores has the right to refuse a human being Meds because of there beliefs to huh. its a business too.

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:59am
  386. I said no such thing! Ricco, I hope you're referring to Steven. No one has the right to refuse service to another based solely on personal beliefs...period.

    Replied on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:12am
  387. By the way. No business has the right to discriminate against anyone. Regardless of race sex gender or who they love! Its not 1920s anymore Bryan Dawn Carter. If you think 2 + 2 = 6 You get a pass for your comments. Because you’re stupid!

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:14am
  388. Go somewhere else .

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:14am
  389. It just a point. What if they refused to serve Blacks? Jews? Etc. If you want to own a business you better be fair!

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:15am
  390. This wouldn’t be a post of gays without the childish name calling, we can’t even treat each other how we fight to be treated. It’s a fight to see who’s smarter. Unless you have a law degree, I just think your internet knowledge is useless.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:20am
  391. Let’s face it the cake people are idiots they should have just made a really terrible cake. The judge made the right decision based on the state law. My point was about supporting GLBT friendly businesses. Also, when I was married it was completely legal for wedding vendors in my state to refuse service it was in Civil union Days and fortunately things have changed.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 12:33am
  392. i am a gay man and while i think some religions are stupid and narrow minded, i support thier right to exist, i dont know how that went down, if the baker was polite about it, no harm no foul, find another baker. big deal. if he was rude then he should be fined. but hey.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:05am
  393. damn uppity gays…think they can demand services from a business just like “normal” people….they should just shut up and go elsewhere! Umm where’s the gays only drinking fountain…I’m feeling thirsty! :P

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:06am
  394. Scott Russell, just drop it. I deleted nothing that had to do with your reply to my comment about private property. You should quit trying to explain something that never was part of my comment.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:34am
  395. John John Micah PickeringMicah, they’re gay what more do you expect? Surely not tact or class.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:38am
  396. I’m with Steven on this one. The couple in question could always take their business elsewhere and encourage others to do the same.

    If this idiot is too wrapped up in his religious dogma to ignore a potentially huge market, it’s his loss.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:38am
  397. Reading the comments of the people who support the baker discriminating against gays, it makes me wonder why the religious nut is in business in the first place if he can’t provide service to everyone. Also, I understand that he has religious beliefs, but why couldn’t he leave those at the door and just do his job? Oh well. I’m glad that gay couple in Co won :P

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:42am
  398. I disagree with Steve R. Peonio….What about what Markeith Lawrence said? Discrimination in a public establishment is simply UNACCEPTABLE!

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 1:50am
  399. Get a gay baker..we make everything fabulous, even cake!!!!

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 2:14am
  400. Looks like we have a weirdo in here.

    Posted on Sunday, December 8, 2013 at 2:15am