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Ill. innkeeper expects more legal troubles when he refuses to host gay weddings

Tuesday, January 21, 2014

PAXTON, Ill. — The owner of an Illinois inn who is the subject of a civil rights complaint for refusing to host same-sex civil union ceremonies, says he will refuse to allow same-sex weddings when the state’s marriage equality law takes effect in June.

Jim Walder

Jim Walder

“As long as I own Timber Creek, there will never be a gay marriage at this wedding venue,” says Jim Walder, owner of the Timber Creek Bed and Breakfast.

Walder is the subject of a civil rights complaint filed in 2011 with the Illinois Human Rights Commission by Todd and Mark Wathen, a same-sex couple who alleged Walder discriminated against them when he refused to host their civil union ceremony at his inn, which advertises itself as a site for weddings and other special events.

According to the complainants, Walden responded to their email inquiry that he would “never” host same-sex civil unions or weddings because “we believe homosexuality is wrong and unnatural based on what the bible says about it.”

The outcome of the 2011 complaint is still pending, and a decision in the case is expected at any time, according to Ed Yohnka, director of communications and public policy for the ACLU of Illinois.

In the meantime, Walder is expecting further legal battles once the new state law legalizing same-sex marriages goes into effect June 1, and he again refuses to allow such ceremonies.

He hopes state lawmakers can amend the law to allow businesses like his to choose whether they want to allow gay weddings on their properties, based on their personal beliefs.

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“Entities that conduct business with the public are bound by Illinois law not to discriminate against customers for a range of reasons, including sexual orientation,” said Yohnka. “The notion that we would carve out an exception to these laws for businesses that want to discriminate against gay and lesbian couples is something that we oppose strenuously.”

“If such a carve-out is allowed, what next? Could a business say that they have a religious objection to folks of other religious beliefs, or against women?” said Yohnka.

“We do not let people pick and choose which nondiscrimination laws they follow. We enforce the law for the benefit of everyone. Changing that policy invites chaos,” he said.

A request for a statement from the Illinois Human Rights Commission regrading the unresolved 2011 complaint went unanswered.

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  1. why would you want to have your gay wedding in this rednecks inn?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:58am
  2. This guys a douche

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:58am
  3. Lets close up another bigots place of business.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:58am
  4. boycott yep.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:10am
  5. its worse then that guys

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:26am
  6. I refuse to live in negativity.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:07am
  7. It use to be.....not in my eating establishment, not from this drinking fountain, not in this rest room. What in the hell is wrong with these so-called Christians who hate in the name of God. Run them out of business.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:38am
  8. Sounds like the townspeople in the Frankenstein movies. If they do not feel like doing it, they should not have to do it. How many other bakeries would simply love to have their business? Well, those are the places to go then. Why bother with a business that does not wish to perform something they believe is wrong for them to do? It would be like trying to force someone to marry someone they do not want to. Sometimes marriage and business are very close to each other. Business relationships can be quite intimate. People should not have to be forced to be intimate unless they desire to be. If the feelin' ain't there, simply let it go and move on to the next one that is willing.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:22pm
  9. After all, there are some businesses that will decorate a cake just about any way the customer wants it, no matter how good or bad that is, any theme, any subject. Why bother with those they feel to be somehow mentally deficient? Let them be mentally deficient and leave them alone to live what others perceive to be their sad misinformed deficient lives. Isn't that simply lowering one's standards to stoop to such a level as to insist and force them to perform like trained seals? I mean really.........

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:37pm
  10. Because Victoria they are braking the law. Why not let anyone do whatever the hell they want? It is because there are law to stop that. Duah

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:19pm
  11. Just look at his generation.. Bless his little heart….he was raised that way… so sad…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:58am
  12. Lots of people overcome their ignorant parentage.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:32am
  13. I'm older than he is and I don't have a problem. It's not just generational.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:38am
  14. I am 51. I refuse to be a racist or a bigot. Damned if I'd spend a dime somewhere that would discriminate against gay people. I hope he loses his business. Maybe he will learn a valuable lesson.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:01am
  15. It’s not something to hold against him. As long as he’s not a dick about it. There are plenty other places to hold a wedding.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:58am
  16. yolo, the point is business owners have no right to turn us away,,,get it?

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:59am
  17. He is not above the law. He must comply with law which is the point. He can't pick and choose...

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 10:50am
  18. It IS something to hold against him. Where would we be as a nation if businesses could chose not to serve whites, or women, or Presbyterians?

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:03am
  19. Why would we want to give him our money anyway?? Now that you know he is the way that he is, move on... next!!!

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:03pm
  20. Uhhh a business is not a church. You cannot discriminate. This has happened time and time again. When will they learn.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:58am
  21. Deny business to these losers. Forcing them to do something they don’t want to do will only make them feel justified in denying service. Not giving them money, and telling family and friends to stay away from the business, will be a far more painful lesson for these bigots.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:59am
  22. I think that is his right .. He needs to put a sign out that saids NOT GAY FRIENDLY . Then we ( the gays ) will take are butts somewhere that is friendly …

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:00am
  23. Why on earth would we want to support a business that does not support us????

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:00am
  24. Stupid bigot.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:00am
  25. The guy is clearly a dick but why would an LGBTQ couple even want to patronize this douche nozzle’s business? I wouldn’t give him a dime of my hard earned money after learning about his bigotry.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:00am
  26. It’s a private business and he is allowed to refuse service. This is what pisses me off. Free enterprise.. if he wants to lose the business… that is on him. It’s HIS right.. just as it is THEIR right to go somewhere else.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:00am
  27. Actually he does NOT have a right to refuse service it is considered discrimination and is against the law.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:05am
  28. No they shouldn't and no they do not otherwise you would still have white only and Irish only and so on. So a private business does not have the right to discriminate.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:10am
  29. Rules are applied differently to private businesses and if he wants to express his religious viewpoints in his business then there is nothing you can really do to stop it, it is the same as attempting to get married in a Catholic church.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:48am
  30. Sorry, but that is incorrect a church and businesses OWNED by a church are the only places that are exempt. One just needs to look at past and present court cases to see that a privately owned business that serves the public MUST follow federal and State laws.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:03am
  31. It is called the Unruh Civil Rights Act enacted in 1959.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:07am
  32. This right here is why this country is failing.. We waste so much time and effort and energy on fighting battles that in the grand scheme of things.. DON'T MATTER. If he doesn't want to host same sex weddings, he shouldn't have to, but he'll probably be forced to. And then what have you really won? You've won a battle to harden someone's heart. Personally I think far too much emphasis has been put on achieving the right to marry, and not enough has been put upon solving the issue of so many LGBT kids on the streets... or kids period on the streets! It's a waste of resources.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:08am
  33. "private business" just means owned by a proprietor or a partnership, rather than a "public business" which is publicly traded and sells shares. A "private club" can sell specific memberships and set their own rules. A business that wants to suck money from the public wallet however, is allowed the privilege of a secular business license from the government. That license is a legal covenant between the business owners, the general public at large, and the government. In exchange for being allowed the privilege of sucking money out of the public's wallets, the business promises to provide useful goods and/or services to any member of the general public who shows up with the price of said goods or services and demands them. It's a secular business, drawing on the wallets of the public and its doors are open onto the public sidewalk. It must render to Caesar.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:41am
  34. No he cannot. He is not above the law. He must comply like everyone else does not get to pick and chose whom he allows in. If we lived locally, I would band together with other couples and try to book my wedding and when he refused, file a class action lawsuit. Hit this bigot in the wallet.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 10:53am
  35. Joshua, when one operates a business open to the "PUBLIC" it is illegal to refuse accommodations to the PUBLIC.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 1:21pm
  36. This guy is a ass

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:00am
  37. Who cares? If we want to do whatever we want then hr should be able to do or not do what hr chooses. You can’t force people to like/support you.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:02am
  38. A river of change is sweeping the world…you can either learn to swim or drown…YOUR choice…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:02am
  39. Well I am well acquainted with Paxton, IL and I can tell you I don’t know of anyone gay, str8 or whatever who would want their wedding in that place.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:02am
  40. He has the right to refuse anyone’s business it is when he openly says its because race, color, creed, gender or sexuality then he is discriminating, and that is against the law.

    Since he isn’t smart enough to just say no or give the usual business excuse of room isn’t available on those dates – I have no sympathy for him.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:02am
  41. His license to do business with the general public's wallet issued by the government is a covenant between the business, general public, and government that the business will provide a useful product or service to anyone who walks in with the price of the item and makes demand for it. He accepted that responsibility when he chose that form of business license. He has no right to refuse.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:51am
  42. good I hope he gets all the legal back lash he can handle...

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:32pm
  43. I will counter that Nuala and say a business has every right to refuse business just not the right to use discrimination to do so. He is a dumbass to do so, because there must be a reason the couple have chosen that location to get married/reception in which means they have been there before and he has catered to them (knowing or unknowingly). Frankly I don't know any hospitality business that is doing that well that can refuse money and parties are huge money makers... Short form the guy is a Bigot, using religion to hide behind and for that it is his legal woes.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:37pm
  44. Ass!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:03am
  45. Just because he doesnt support gay marriage doesnt make him a bigot. I dont like some people and still carry silly taught prejudices, we all do. Doesnt mean im an asshole. Pick your bsttles people.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:04am
  46. If I were gay, I’d try to book there just so I could sue him.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:04am
  47. Yeeaaahh. Since when do business owners (or anyone) get to pick and choose what laws they abide by? Discrimination, just like speeding or driving drunk or robbing someone, is illegal. I don’t care if he’s a private business owner – he still has to abide by the law.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:06am
  48. you're right, but what kind of masochistic person would want their wedding to be at a homophobic venue?

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:19am
  49. gliberto the point is he's violating the law and if he can do it and get away with it soon many will do so.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:40am
  50. Unfortunately he can get away with it because even if it is considered discrimination, if he is not a branch business, all he has to say is it is "family owned" and that it is his choice not to cater to certain people, and he would be right. Its sad, but its the truth.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:58pm
  51. He really needs to have his lawyer explain accommodation laws in the state of Illinois. He is breaking the law and will lose. I would suggest that half a dozen couples should go and ask for his venue for their weddings, file a class action law suit when he denies them, and have their lawyers clean up. Anyone want to own a B&B?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:06am
  52. Thank you, Tracy!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:06am
  53. again another business idiot who lets his religious beliefs mix with his business. Get out of the hospitality industry, I dont get it, do gays pay with a different currency? hope he goes bankrupt

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:06am
  54. Battles. Whatever this is dumb. You guys are WAY too rainbowy about even the smallest things. Lmfao. So lame.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:06am
  55. What other rules and laws is he willing to break?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:07am
  56. Hey if you don’t want the money then fine. But if you are going to discriminate you should be shut down. Jerkwad.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:07am
  57. I don’t think we have a right to tell this guy that he must allow us to marry on his property.
    There’s a difference between not allowing gay people/couples to stay and not allowing weddings. If he were saying that LGBT individuals couldn’t stay/eat/whatever there, that’s different from saying he won’t allow same-sex weddings on his property.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:07am
  58. How is it different? These are both services he offers as part of his business, and both are subject to equal accommodation.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:19am
  59. Churches offer weddings as part of a "service" too, don't they?

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:20am
  60. His business is not a church.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:36am
  61. ^That isn't my point.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:36am
  62. So, I guess he doesn’t want my straight money any more than he want’s gay couple’s gay money?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:08am
  63. There’s not a soul on this planet who follows the Bible word for word. So essentially when someone says, “This is how things should be because the Bible says so,” they’re instantly making themselves hypocrites. Unless someone is going to live their life based on every rule within the Bible, then who are they to judge someone else for handpicking what they want to follow? Every Christian does it. Which is why religion should stay as far away from government as possible.
    ··· Allen Clifton

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:08am
  64. I was raised that way too, but I have not been that way for years. My choice.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:08am
  65. No big deal really. Just go somewhere else.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:09am
  66. Carrie: Do you know what a bigot is? Go look in the mirror!
    ……..
    Until the great mass of the people shall be filled
    with the sense of responsibility for each other’s
    welfare, social justice can never be attained.
    ··· Helen Keller

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:10am
  67. Does he also refuse to host weddings where the couple are of different races?

    I guess I like consistency in my ugly hate huh.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:10am
  68. He just needs to come out of the closet already…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:10am
  69. Ka ululan ka!!!di ka magpakamatay?!!!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:10am
  70. You serve the public, you serve all the public. So yeah, expect more legal troubles, cause they’ll happen, and you’ll lose.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:10am
  71. Go to a religious charity and say that. Go to an religious-affiliated and adoption service and say that. Go to a battered women's shelter that has nothing on offer for battered men. Tell me what they say. Then tell me you'd shut them all down, regardless of the social cost, because you don't like the answer. I'll wait.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:21am
  72. And all of those are charities that DO serve all the public. Nice attempt, but you fail.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:22am
  73. Charities are a totally different license... non-profit. Nothing at all like a general business license issued to sell to the general public at retail.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:46am
  74. There are a better county place that an old farm !!! nice and freely of any hate!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:11am
  75. I wouldn’t want to have my special moment in life to be surrounded with such negative energy. I would just go somewhere else. Why can’t we respect one another and simply go elsewhere.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:12am
  76. Why would you want to have a wedding there anyways. If they say no, then move on. I am all for equality don’t get me wrong. But, if they’re douches about it. Why give them your money?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:12am
  77. Exactly my point <3

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:01pm
  78. Contact them through the Timber Creek website. Let them know how you feel.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:12am
  79. Don’t tell him it is for gays book all the rooms w/extras get whatever you can on the bill,add ons and add ons until he is drooling for that cash cow, then let him know. Will the love and need of cash loose to his hate?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:12am
  80. Tolerance of intolerance is cowardice. ··· Ayaan Hirsi Ali

    He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it
    as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil
    without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.
    ··· Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Morality cannot be legislated but behavior can
    be regulated. Judicial decrees may not change
    the heart, but they can restrain the heartless.
    ··· Martin Luther King Jr

    Some cowardly, evil, morally irreprehensible people herein.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:13am
  81. Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:13am
  82. I sent them a e mail letting them know I was praying for them, well praying for their demise and bankruptcy.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:14am
  83. Oh well…..

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:15am
  84. just another business that will see loss of money.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:16am
  85. I think he should expect financial troubles….

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:16am
  86. He won’t own it long…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:17am
  87. Do you host couples that have been married twice,think that’s in the Bible to last time I checked or idolaters,drunkards ,etc

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:17am
  88. Yup… and his up-right paying guests better not wear two different fabrics

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:20am
  89. Cindy and I are or were such bad people. God Karen I miss her so much. I feel like I have just been existing the past three years.llove ya both lin

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:20am
  90. and why would we want to get married there anyway. he shouldnt even be given this attention. so who cares just dont go there. now hes got his face out there so he’ll get the buisness from all the bigots which will boost his ales for a bit. only doing him good

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:20am
  91. don’t spend any time or money on him. let it go find another place that does except LOVE

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:21am
  92. What an ass…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:21am
  93. just a way to get free publicity! Who the hell wants to be married in Paxton, Il anyway? There’s not going to be gays going to the middle of no where to get married! We’re smart, we’ll get married in Chicago! LOL

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:21am
  94. Another moron bigot…who believes what it says in the bible….lol…it is the most forgered document in the world, it was written by men…not some universal god. People like to pick and choose out of it so they can discriminate against others….close the church

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:23am
  95. They need to just stop. This is why do many people are pissed at the lgbt people because we are throwing fits. If they don’t want to host an lgbt wedding then forget them. Don’t send your money their way. Don’t give them publicity. The more homophobs are on the news the more support they get from other homophobs and the more we look like cry baby’s.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:23am
  96. I'm torn, but my first instinct was exactly what you posted. I think right now, with so many states seriously considering changing law, that we need to pick and choose our battles. Yes he is a dick and in the wrong, but this guy just got a TON of free publicity that is bound to work in his favor because we all know how homophobes like to flock together. IDK I'm just thinking that we can't change everybody and sometimes it's better to just walk away and focus on the "bigger fish" rather than some bigot who runs a crappy bed and breakfast. I'm with you on this one Jack!

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 12:28pm
  97. I completely agree <3

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:03pm
  98. BEND OVER, BUDDY…. HERE COMES, YOUR REALITY CHECK!!!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:27am
  99. Once again it is not about allowing someone their feelings. It is about discrimination. Replace “gay” with “black”. Not okay and in fact illegal. We must stand against discrimination. It’s not about having a wedding at his stupid place. It’s about not allowing him to discriminate against anybody.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:27am
  100. Why anyone would refuse doing business with anyone , in this tough economy defies common sense . And Paxton Il. is a crappy little one horse town with not a lot of business to begin with .

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:28am
  101. Who cares? There are plenty of places who WANT your dollars! It’s not about Christianity or gay rights, it’s about money, so just go elsewhere. He’ll realize what he’s done when he goes out of business because no one wants to get married there!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:30am
  102. When your god is a misogynistic, egocentric,
    sadistic, hateful bigot and racist…so are you.

    If you are of the LGBTIQ community and you cannot see anything wrong with the attitude of this man, and the stance he has taken, then YOU are part of the problem. Bigotry, be it passive-agressive, as this man displays, or full-blown agression, such as a lynching, is wrong. There is no acceptable amount of bigotry: Either you are a bigot or you are not a bigot. If you are LGBTIQ, and accept this attitude and behaviour from anyone, you are a bigot AND confused. Seek mental health help.

    A certain segment of you will not — cannot — change from your bigoty, LGBTIQ or straight. You are confused about being and believing. LGBTIQ is being; bigotry is believing. Being, such as LGBTIQ, is diversity within society. Believing, such as in bigotry, is divisive to society.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:30am
  103. Hey people, whatever happen to having a simple love commitment ceromony? Marriage will never be allowed by the public that owns businesses. They will not at any cost accept same sex marriage.
    Its like they obey every word in there bible. I bet they refused adultery. Or prostitutes with married men? Or they leave there wives at home to bare children, and be the man of the Castle. Or blacks aren’t free anymore.
    But guess what, all that was past is no more. Blacks are free! Women wear the pants now! Now, gays get married!
    These days you cannot afford to refuse business or you will have no business!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:31am
  104. Illinois law prohibits discrimination in employment, real-estate transactions, access to financial credit and the availability of public accommodations based on sexual orientation. 775 ILCS 5/1-102.

    They are fucked!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:32am
  105. Civil rights deniers should go to jail.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:32am
  106. For those of you who are saying that it’s his right to not host same-sex weddings and that we should just go somewhere else and leave these bigots alone – If we do that, before long, LGBT folks that live in rural areas (and even those of us who live in certain cities) will have to travel 3 counties over to get a shirt dry cleaned. We worked hard to get anti-discrimination laws in place because we shouldn’t have to run around all over the place to find people who will provide the same services for us that they provide for everyone else.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:32am
  107. That is a very valid point and one that I did not consider so thank you for reminding me that rural areas would have a difficult time. Sometimes I forget about demographic because I live close to the city. I advocate where I live and I'm starting to see a shift in public opinion...at least around here. The shift is that we are "crying" over every little thing and that is really starting to bother me. We are sooooo close to getting marriage equality on the ballot and there are a lot of people here "on the fence" and I sometimes worry when it feels like everything makes the news. However, after reading your post I can see why this one guy could be very important with setting precedence in that area so thanks for your perspective.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 12:40pm
  108. Mollie, I see where you are coming from too. We're having to fight on 2 fronts - trying to get marriage equality and not allow discrimination. The fact that we have to try to win over people who are sitting on the fence because they will eventually be voting on our civil rights is part of the problem (but it's a reality for now). We shouldn't be subject to the whim of the majority. Having said that, I wish you luck with the fight in your state!

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:44pm
  109. Good, he should be expecting it.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:32am
  110. Well, who knows. But hell, there will be financial losses.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:33am
  111. And…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:33am
  112. How is minding one’s own business when dealing with clients / customers difficult?
    We all have opinions and beliefs. We all dislike certain things about people. Nothing special about any of those personal, private ideas. Hence we keep them to ourselves.
    No idea or belief requires treating customers with such disrespect.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:39am
  113. And for that matter, we should discriminate against black people! Heaven forbid! Instead of facing lawsuits and having to put out money for lawyer fees, just get with the program and accept people as they are and not how you want them to be!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:43am
  114. If I turned every republican client away because I dint agree with them I’d be broke! Suck it up and serve the public. It’s none of our business what other people believe or who they love. Business is business. It’s not a platform for sharing our personal opinions with the world.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:45am
  115. People also need to remember that while the law will always trump anything, that that is not always a good thing. Sure it starts with the people you call bigots simply for not adhering to your beliefs. Hey, I might not agree with this man but he wants to practice his religion in his own private business, there is nothing that should be able to stop. There are several other non private places that allow weddings in which case they are required to provide. You wouldn’t go into a Catholic Church and expect to get married there would you? No, it just is not like that. The point is, advocate for what you believe is right but in the end you can’t force individuals to change. And if we live in a country where people can no longer express their beliefs (to a non destructive extent) then this is not the America I know.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:45am
  116. Good!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:45am
  117. How about he also refuse second marriages, interracial marriages, and of course the brides must be verified as virgins or he can’t host their weddings too (just to name a few).

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:45am
  118. Anthony: You mistake being for believing.
    LGBTIQ is being; bigotry is believing.
    It is wrong to believe that someone is worth less than another for being. It is bigotry to deny others goods, services and respect for being.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:46am
  119. What would happen if I opened a business for LBGT’s only or refused to serve someone because they were straight and i found it offensive etc. First they want equal rights like us (heterosexuals) and then they dare refuse to cater to us righteous folk………….. Yes everyone has a right to their opinion but when it tramples the rights of ALL PEOPLE then there lies the problem! Thank you for listening.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:46am
  120. A simple way he could have handled it? “I’ll hold it, but I would like to inform you that my beliefs go against same sex marriages.” I doubt after hearing that, no same-sex couple would still want to be married at that location

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:48am
  121. Why would you want to stay in a place that doesn’t like you in the first place. Boycott it so he goes under and out of business.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:48am
  122. Dumb ass is missing out on making lots of money.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:51am
  123. I think
    Everyone should boycott him so he can lose his business! I would not give him one cent btw Joshua private businesses have to obey anti discrimination laws. Churches have different rules because of freedom of religion so not a good comparison

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:55am
  124. He’s the owner. He has the right to cater to whom he so chooses. As a gay man here I respect his choice. I’m sure there are other places to be married.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:57am
  125. Omg, insane. Sad yes.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:58am
  126. He is ignorant and needs to do research cause they have already proven it is natural

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:00am
  127. well at least he’s not like “I’m not gonna allow gay weddings here! BUSINESS WILL BE BOOMING”. He’ll get what’s coming to him. All the bigots will in due time. I’ll be crossing my fingers until then.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:01am
  128. I’m so tired of these bible thumpers thinking they can dictate what’s right and what’s wrong. I do believe in freedom of religion, but this is not a religious establishment.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:04am
  129. I Hope His Business go’s Out Of Business God Show Him What Hate Gets You …..

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:05am
  130. I am a lesbian, The Michigan Womyn’s Music Festival Film Program has the right to not allow men. What is so different? I support LGBT my question is who are we to judge? So fine he won’t allow. It is his loss in revenue. We go somewhere else. We need to balnce the reality of life that we are all one. I will take the heat for comments. Just saying my piece with all due respect.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:05am
  131. That is the difference between a special license for a private club or event, and a general business license to operate a business serving the public sidewalk.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:43am
  132. It’s about the right to choose a venue that you like, it can be location, amenities really anything. Just because he is a bigot doesn’t mean you have to go any place else if this is your first choice. He hasn’t the right to refuse and I hope he looses the business because of the mounting legal fee’s.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:05am
  133. I hope he wins his case. We shouldn’t force anyone b&bs to do whatever we want. Unless he keeps gays from staying there what he’s doing doesn’t seem wrong to me.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:06am
  134. I take that back. Illinois law state's that he is breaking the law.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:11am
  135. I know no one wants to put money into a business as customers that discriminate against gay people. He has a license that he signed which makes his business under the laws of the land. Why do they insist on making a stand against equality? I really hope he loses his business.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:06am
  136. Who cares? Go somewhere that appreciates our community and stop giving people like this FREE advertisement!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:07am
  137. Michael Scavara, as much as I would agree with you, this is not a private establishment. Look at the bakery here in Oregon where I’m from. They refused a gay couples cake because of religious conviction. That’s not legal to do. Now if there was commotion or some kind irrational behavior from a customer, that would be different, but it was bias opinion. It’s not a reasonable cause.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:08am
  138. Why sue .. why would you want to give a bigot your hard earned money? Support businesses that support the community. He’ll get the message when no one uses his services and he goes belly up. I really don’t understand why anyone would want to have their wedding there .. straight or gay .. why support a bigot!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:08am
  139. You want to serve religion, open a church. You want to serve the public, open a business. PICK ONE.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:09am
  140. I say Why bother fighting him he is an ignorant bigot….hit him in the pocket instead…let all your gay friends and supporters to boycott his business…then who wins!!! not this bigot

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:13am
  141. He will lose in court. But which LGBT person would want to spend a dime in his place anyway?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:14am
  142. I’m just trying to figure out what gay couple wants to have a reception in PAXTON??? Champaign-Urbana is not that far away… :-)

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:16am
  143. There are so many people on this thread who don’t understand public accommodation laws and keep babbling about “private” business – Here’s the deal: if you operate a business that serves the public you can’t deny service to anyone you dislike. These laws exist for a very good reason. If you don’t understand I suggest you go study the history of integration in this country. Get some education and quit claiming that this business owner has a right to discriminate HE DOESN’T.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:17am
  144. In Utah we have started a sight called utahgayweddings.com. Businesses that want our business can sign up and we can bypass the assholes.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:17am
  145. And for the woman asking about the woman’s festival – that’s a private event and isn’t the same thing at all. If it was a business open to the public where anyone could walk in, then you’d have an argument for discrimination by not allowing men.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:21am
  146. Not a very wise move on his part….

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:21am
  147. Bye Bye Mr. Bigot!! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:21am
  148. So, why would you want to have your wedding at someplace you’re not wanted? It’s cases like this that make people think we’re trying to shove some agenda down their throat. There are plenty of other places who DO want our business. Move on!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:25am
  149. Who would want to have a wedding in that atmosphere?!?! Just go somewhere else for your special day.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:25am
  150. He will go out of business. Dumb ass!!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:26am
  151. human turd

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:26am
  152. It’s not a matter of supporting his business but rather telling Christians that if you want to do business in the public square then you must follow the laws pertaining to business of that state including discrimination laws.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:29am
  153. I think they need to honor the law, but why in the hell would you want to give your money to a bigot. Yes close them, but never would I give them my money. To this day I don’t go to Cracker Barrel.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:29am
  154. in the state of Illinois, discrimination is against the law. ive lived in Illinois all of my almost 32 years. the laws here are hard to avoid. except the one where it is illegal to be on your phone altogether!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:31am
  155. lol..as she says with his vagina…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:32am
  156. I get the rationale in laws & wholeheartedly agree. On a personal level though there is no way I would eat or drink anything from that place. Carry on with lawsuit though, all need to understand that discrimination is unacceptable!!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:33am
  157. Fuck him and his roach motel.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:35am
  158. Such arrogance. Put him out of business and fry what’s left of him.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:37am
  159. GOOD

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:39am
  160. Okay, alliance, family, and friends of LGBTQQ folks, it’s time to bond to shut this B and B down, to mean Bye Bye.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:39am
  161. and he should… it reminds me of white B&B denying blacks their stay …

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:47am
  162. He’s an arrogant fool, but him owning that business he has the right to do what ever he wants so technically what he is doing isn’t illegal or against the law since he is the owner, he he wants to not allow gay couples to stay at his bed and breakfast more power to him I sure ass hell won’t and he will lose costumers but it’s his right to do what he wants.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 4:58am
  163. They will punish him for his beliefs by taking away what he has worked so hard for all of his life. Sadly, we no longer have religious freedom in this Country, nor, even the right to have our own opinions and ideals. The real dictators are taking all of these away. So speaketh one of the sheep.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:02am
  164. Also what’s the point of going through all the paperwork and hassle of filing a complaint for God sake just find another place to host a gay civil union I’m not being harsh or irrational, I’m being a realist here!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:02am
  165. Keep up the publicity about his place, business will slow down, he will close. We have seen it happen before.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:03am
  166. He needs a serious invasion of people

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:06am
  167. Why would anyone want to get married at a place that isn’t welcoming to them anyways? But why do people have to sue to make their point? If good people, gay and str8, just stopped doing business with them eventually they will either go away or only cater to other bigots. The problem is that many allies don’t realize who these jerks are.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:06am
  168. better to give your money to a gay friendly business there’s plenty of them out there. I wouldn’t want to give him my hard earned money . just don’t do business with him . hit em where it hurts $$$

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:20am
  169. looks like a place to avoid to me

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:27am
  170. Victoria actually described bigotry as religious freedom…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:41am
  171. Of course he should expect issues. Beginning with word-of-mouth blasting his bigotry. He’ll probably see his $$ go downward; possibly beginning with this article/ignorance press release.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:43am
  172. Make him lose his license.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 5:45am
  173. OMG really? There MUST be other B&B’s in Illinois!! Hell, there have to be inclusive B&Bs there that can EASILY drive this creep out of business!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:00am
  174. He’s not WORTH the legal trouble!!!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:00am
  175. Money is money and it all spends the same!! He isn’t in the weddings. He doesn’t have to give his blessings or even support gay marriage, but I bet he supports food on the table and money in the bank!! Does he refuse to host heterosexual marriages if he doesn’t feel the couple will go the distance or he doesn’t like them? A fool and his money…oh wait he won’t be getting much…I wouldn’t want my wedding there anyway…his bad vibes would ruin the whole thing!!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:02am
  176. You cater to the public. You are not allowed to discriminate. Follow the law or CLOSE UP SHOP

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:09am
  177. Let the bigots learn the hard way! Meanwhile, the rest of us will grow, progress and take the higher road and enjoy life.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:14am
  178. why would you want your wedding at a venue run by bigots….

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:18am
  179. I hope he is made to close his doors. Bigot deserves to be shut down

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:29am
  180. yep glad he is ready

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:36am
  181. Look at the guy! Those are the people that don’t matter. Unfortunately God creates millions of people with no enlightenment, just for procreation with the off chance they might produce an enlightened one. Unfortunately, they think their opinion matters!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:38am
  182. Let’s all remind him of the case in Great Britain with the B&B that failed miserably. :D

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:46am
  183. Wonder if he would refuse a heterosexual interracial marriage.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:48am
  184. I hope there’s more trouble for the asswipe.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 6:53am
  185. Close down thew Homophobic Bigot!!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 7:07am
  186. he’ll be out of lots of money if he doesn’t abide by the law…bakery closed in oregon for the same reason…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 7:10am
  187. Shut him down !!!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 7:16am
  188. Let the fun leg problems begin! Bigoted people like you deserve the problems!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 7:30am
  189. Don’t agree with him but it’s his business. I guess he can do what ever he wants to.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:04am
  190. How is our love damage these people??? I will never understand that.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:07am
  191. let them be……plenty of other places,no?so…let him be in his ignorance!!!by doing this you make him being a star of the day

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:17am
  192. When are these people gonna learn that public accomodations law is different from religious freedom?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:42am
  193. Its his own business he owns it… what about how many people lost there bars an means of income because smoking was banned.. Im gay an I think he has every right. Who would want to fight to get married somewhere where its not a friendly or gay friendly area?? Not this person..
    My belief is its his own business so its his choice go somewhere else

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 9:25am
  194. Does this man think he will be rewarded in heaven by sticking to his so called Christian beliefs and going broke bc he won’t! In fact he will probably be turned away as if God never knew him. He is blasphemous to say the least.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 10:01am
  195. I guess they’re living in the 50s/60s

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 10:30am
  196. It’s called HOSPITALITY – you can’t decide who’ll you be hospitable too in this business. Amanda Casey, I can’t believe a Dyke is justifying this homo-hatred. Because that’s what this is. And running a public accommodation business means you can’t discriminate. By your stupid self loathing ‘Aunty Tom’ life view, it would be ok still to say “we don’t want blacks , Asians or Latinos here”. Shame on him and double shame on you. Because you, Ms.Lesbian, should know better!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 10:33am
  197. I bet they won’t even go there….I wouldn’t

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 10:49am
  198. To all these idiots who don’t know what The U.S. Constitution actually says, and who don’t know what the terms “separation of church and state” mean, and who think they are above the law because of their “beliefs” I say…I hope you are fined repeatedly (as you agreed to follow the law when you opened your business in a non-discriminatory jurisdiction) and, if necessary, have your business license revoked.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:05am
  199. Jesus twits and Bible scum like this bigot used to think it was cool to use their goddamn “Good Book” as an excuse for racist discrimination. They were called Southern Baptists. Not much has changed.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:05am
  200. this needs to STOP we’re becoming big bullies it’s his business and if he wants to lose money so be it but all these lawsuits and us forcing stuff is causing a backlash against everyday gay people who don’t need anymore drama. and remember gay businesses will have to allow homophobes to use their companies too! most businesses reserve the right to refuse service, I know I don’t wait on belligerent drunks when they come n my business is that gonna get me sued?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:11am
  201. Closed mind,closed heart. His degenerate soul will answer for his hatred.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:14am
  202. Colorado is full of gay friendly businesses that do very well. Take a hint, money is still money. EVERYONE needs it.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:16am
  203. Breaking the law and posting it let the lawsuits fly, he needs a reality check

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:40am
  204. Does this ban reflect his own personal sexual anxieties?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:55am
  205. He’s gonna pay for this in the long run. Financially. Socially. Maybe even psychologically.
    Its his choice to run his buisness into the ground while standing for what he beleives in. I don’t agree with his actions but I admire his willingness to stand strong against all who would try to force his hand.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 11:59am
  206. I think he is afraid that touching gay money may make him gay! He should be so lucky!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 12:05pm
  207. He don’t have to be forced into having to host illeagal couples. he has rights too.Gay people forget heteros have rights too they think they are the only ones.Gays should respect others too.and stop being selfish

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 12:07pm
  208. The man is entitled to his beliefs but he is not entitled to discriminate or break the law!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 12:12pm
  209. They are wrong and this is just another example of why we need equality NATIONWIDE.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 12:26pm
  210. I hope his hate feeds his family. Because I would not go to or even show up if this was where the party spot!!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 12:43pm
  211. Put his bigot ass out of business.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 12:58pm
  212. For the life of me I cannot understand any business refusing business.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 1:10pm
  213. Oh it’s jut a B&B.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 1:37pm
  214. If he is able to use this argument for gays, then he can also use it against women, other religions, blacks or anyone. Discrimination is discrimination. If you run a business to the public, you need to serve the public not matter what your belief is about people. If not, get out of the business.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 1:38pm
  215. I don’t agree. He has his right to do what he wants with his business. Just get married somewhere else. Don’t make a big issue out of it. He will just lose the money!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 1:53pm
  216. The owner of this business is a fool! Hey avoid the fool & take your business elsewhere!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 1:56pm
  217. he needs to move to Russia where they appreciate HATE…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 1:58pm
  218. There was a time when African-American motorists had to use “The Green Book” just to be able to find inns where they could stay or places they could eat because of bigotry and segregation. I see very little difference. I don’t believe his religious freedoms are being attacked since he is not in the business of religion–he’s in the business of providing beds and breakfasts. The freedom of LGBT people to use the same public services and businesses as any other citizen trumps his perception that as a business owner you are the God of your business. Not if you want a license to operate sir.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:01pm
  219. As a gay man who recently married, why would anyone want to give this man money to host a wedding? I look at it as his loss, financially.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:12pm
  220. Why would people want to have a wedding at a place that does not want them, why would you give those asses your money? Just move on…

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:17pm
  221. James Walder=LOSER

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:17pm
  222. Hope he loses a lot of business for this.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:24pm
  223. I’d take the B&B and will cater/do business with anyone who wants to do business with me (legally) for it isn’t anyone’s place to judge whom gets married, as that is between “a person(s)” and their GOD (if they believe in him.) – It’s fine to have your beliefs, but it is not fine to force them upon someone else.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:43pm
  224. Why would you want to celebrate your wedding in a place where you aren’t welcome? They would probably intentionally mess things up for you to prove something in their heads. Move on and find somewhere else. Let them be jerks and lose business.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:45pm
  225. As much as I hate to say it, It’s his inn, he has the right to refuse to host a wedding.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:47pm
  226. Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:52pm
  227. To NOT allow gays to marry at your business because you disagree with it is NO different than not marrying an interracial couple because you disagree with it. Would HE support allowing people to not marry interracial couples because he disagrees with it?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 2:52pm
  228. Unfortunately its his choice. Theres not much (even if we were to use the law against him) that any of us could do. We can yell and scream discrimination all we want, but the thing is, I know that these business’s have ways around all this. Im covered in tattoos and I have been discriminated against for that as well in getting a job. I know its totally different, but its the point that all a business has to say is it is theyre choice on how theyre business is run, and if he is not a branch business, there is nothing anybody can do. Even more so if he is family owned. Now that we know that his business is this way, instead of being angry (don’t give him that satisfaction) spread the word and refuse to use any of his services period.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:01pm
  229. People saying he has a choice are incorrect. The law provides that businesses CANNOT by law discriminate based an sexual identity, etc. he chose to become a business in a state and country that do NOT allow discrimination. He will lose.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:06pm
  230. Silly man

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:17pm
  231. after he sees how much money he is losing, he will feel different. There will be a lot of gay weddings.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:28pm
  232. Paxton, Ill? Yeah…sure…this bigot must have PLENTY of gay or straight men and women lining up to have their wedding in the middle of fucking NOWHERE! Maybe just a PR blitz to keep the place open!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:33pm
  233. Illinois happens to have a zero-tolerance policy for discrimination of any kind within its Public Accommodation law. And here we have Jim Walder, who actually believes that his religious faith provides him with some sort of elite status that somehow dismisses his obligation to abide by that mandate.

    How does this keep happening? Where do these religious-types get off thinking they’re somehow above following or respecting the law?

    This man runs a public business. That means, he serves everybody within the general public. If he’s going to use his religious beliefs to pick and choose who he opens his doors to, then he is very simply breaking the law. What he needs to do, since he’s so obviously higher and mightier than every other business owner in Illinois, is remove himself from the public market and restrict his business to his fellow church-members.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 3:54pm
  234. yeah, good luck with that

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:23pm
  235. maybe just looking for some publicity?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:24pm
  236. Well he got it, in a negative way. Hopefully there are enough straight allies that will stand on the side of equality and not patronize this dump. I hope, between loosing business, fines imposed by the state, and being sued, that he has to close the doors.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:48pm
  237. there are way more straight enemies..let them all get married there..you know its got tacky fake flowers

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:49pm
  238. Cue the self-loathing assholes cheering on their own discrimination, just like happens every time one of these stories is posted.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:26pm
  239. Let’s spend our money with businesses that are our allies.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:27pm
  240. For sure, but doing this is even better, since it will make people think twice before breaking anti-discrimination law when it really counts. Better to hash it out over cake and weddings than food, accommodation or health care.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:29pm
  241. He will not win this

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:27pm
  242. Wow, a bigot in the midwest. Who would’ve thought?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:27pm
  243. hes a dick. probably a marketing ploy to get rich republicans to marry off their kids there.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:28pm
  244. We need to picket this place saying he is wrong if he serves pork or shell fish or other unclean foods! He does not have a beard that’s a sin right?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:30pm
  245. Who the hell is going to Paxton, IL for their wedding anyway!?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:32pm
  246. As Forest Gump says..stupid is as stupid does!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:32pm
  247. Lol it’s too bad… Having Republican values is really only beneficial if you believe in them all… If he would take gay customers he would make a fortune. Hmm Money? > Lawsuit I think so ;)

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:34pm
  248. Good! I hope his life is filled with the same misery he dishes out!

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:40pm
  249. Sue him and put him out of business. When he comes looking for a handout send him to his fellow Republican Christians. I’m sure they will treat him nice.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:40pm
  250. I hate posts like these…..sigh…..can’t we all just accept that people aren’t always gonna roll out the red carpet for you…….if he chooses not to host gay weddings so be it and leave the poor man alone…..does he live in America???…..then he’s free to do as he chooses including not having gays on his property or host gay weddings…..get over it…..there will always be old fashioned people that don’t think gays should be allowed or accepted…..get over it….we do live in the land of the free…..you gays wanted to be equal and now you are along with being equally hated as well….simply because there’s some law out there saying you can strut your shit publically doesn’t mean everyone is being forced to accept you or deal with you in their lives…..it simply states that you can’t be fired for being a man that sucks dick….along with other stuff but still you get my meaning……..the moral…. get the fuck over the fact that there’s gonna be people like this….so what…..their loss for not seeing the person you are……carry on with your life instead of trying to make trouble for someone over their life choices….isn’t that what the gays are fighting against????……so why are you trying to do it to other people who simply don’t like your life choices…..it is a two way street…..

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:46pm
  251. Yeah just like those pesky blacks should've just stayed away from the lunch counters in the 60s! Seriously, though, it's anti-discrimination law. Period. Why we should be the only ones who have to accept discrimination is beyond me. Also, a wedding is hardly a seedy lifestyle choice. What's your problem with married people?

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:49pm
  252. Snark aside, we all know what you meant, so please take your straight privilege and your anti-gay bullshit elsewhere.

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:54pm
  253. who said I was anti gay or that I was straight privileged????.....that shit drivel fell from your mouth honey....not mine.....as a matter of fact I have two sisters and countless other gays in my family and I also have friends that are gay......I myself ride the fence....sometimes I like a beef and sometimes I like clams......I think maybe you need to check yourself and your categorizing.....cause you failed......simply because I believe everyone has a right to their opinion and a right to not host gay weddings if you don't want it.....and who the hell said anything about blacks.....YOU......you sir are as ignorant as your comments make you sound

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 9:07pm
  254. you forcing someone to do something against their beliefs is also against the law ass clown but I bet you didn't bing that law did you....too high on the shit on your dick????.....maybe you should come down off the ignorance high before commenting.......fool

    Replied on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 9:09pm
  255. Gay money spends the same as straight money! If you have a business, keep your religion at home and church.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:48pm
  256. He just does not understand that it is 2014 and people are people no matter who they are and people like him need to stop throwing religion in everyone faces and let people be who they are and be happy.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 8:48pm
  257. When we got married, we looked for people and businesses that were looking for and happy for our patronage. Why would I want to celebrate my life event where I am not appreciated?

    Posted on Wednesday, January 22, 2014 at 9:01pm