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Wash. florist who refused flowers for gay couple’s wedding files suit against state

Thursday, May 16, 2013

RICHLAND, Wash. — A florist targeted by two lawsuits for refusing to provide flowers for a same-sex wedding has filed her own lawsuit against Washington state, claiming the state is violating her religious beliefs.

The lawsuits stem from an incident in March when Barronelle Stutzman of Arlene’s Flowers refused to provide flowers for a long-time client because she said same-sex marriage was against her personal beliefs.

Barronelle Stutzman

Attorneys for Alliance Defending Freedom, a legal ministry, filed suit on behalf of Stutzman Thursday in Benton County Superior Court, the Tri-City Herald reported.

“Everyone knows that plenty of florists are willing to assist in same-sex ceremonies, so the state has no reason to force Barronelle to violate her deeply held beliefs,” Senior Legal Counsel Dale Schowengerdt said in a statement.

Last month, the American Civil Liberties Union in Washington state filed suit against Stutzman, 68, on behalf of the Kennewick gay couple denied service.

Robert Ingersoll and Curt Freed were longtime patrons of the flower shop.

That lawsuit seeks a court order barring her from discriminating against customers on the basis of sexual orientation and damages for violation of the couple’s rights as well as unspecified damages.

Under state law, it’s illegal for businesses to refuse to sell goods, merchandise and services to any person because of their sexual orientation.

Washington state Attorney General Bob Ferguson also has filed a consumer protection lawsuit.

Washington voters legalized gay marriage in November. However, protections against discrimination based on sexual orientation were codified in 2006 in one of the first pushes to expand civil rights to the gay community.

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  1. what a homophobic cunt.. hope she goes bankrupt

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:02pm
  2. does her religious beliefs include mixed race couples? also legal how about working on a sunday? ok? so she picks what she beleives based on her bigotry close shop or become a church see how long yo ulast in business

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:03pm
  3. Protest !! Boycott! Invest into gay area flower shops !
    Homophobia is not a phobia It’s just someone being asshole

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:03pm
  4. shame on YOU!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:03pm
  5. Bitch shut the fuck up!!!! Old bag

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:04pm
  6. Separation of Church and State? :)

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:04pm
  7. TWAT. She will get what she deserves.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:05pm
  8. Why force someone who doesn’t support the community to sell to us. Go buy from someone who supports the community. Just don’t give the bigots your money!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:05pm
  9. as a business owner she really shouldn’t be making such a bigoted decision. if she is going to be like that she needs to post signs or something so the LGBT couples can just pass her by and go somewhere the respects them.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:05pm
  10. Please GLBT people spend your money at companies that are inclusive and let these people suffer financially from not getting business.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:06pm
  11. well pumpkin should not have made such a big deal out of not serving a longtime customer, so STFU

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:06pm
  12. Stupid bitch. All she had to do was her job and sell flowers, now she is involved with three law suits and will likely loose her business. Moral here do your job and don’t judge things that are none of your business.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:06pm
  13. Won’t she be surprised when she goes to meet her Maker (which, from the looks of it, will probably be pretty darn soon) and she’s denied entrance to heaven because her “understanding” of her religion is erroneous.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:07pm
  14. This is just not right, she shouldn’t be able to not send flowers. It would be like if she wasn’t going to do that because the people were black and not white. It happened all the time in the 50′s and 60′s, people were refused service because of their skin color and now people are refused things because of their sexual orientation, which both things a person can not help at all. DISCRIMINATION IS AGAINST THE LAW, PEOPLE!!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:07pm
  15. OMG!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:08pm
  16. What a bitch, Id love to go to a gay wedding.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:08pm
  17. someone in her town should just destroy her business..period..

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:08pm
  18. It’s ducking flowers !!!! I rather invest in gay business other than porn stores & bars!! Let’s get wedding business and family businesses into gay areas invest people

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:10pm
  19. i wish I could go to her store and shame her for selling dying flowers that should be on it’s own plant! That’s against MY belief. And yet I don’t go to ever florist and tell them how sick it is to give a dying plant to represent something.

    Hope she feel the pain of when that law suite recoils against her. stupid bitch.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:10pm
  20. legitimately, Its her choice to refuse business to one of her “longstanding customers” if she so choses, there are other places the couple could go. Its not a “religious right” though, its a homophobic right

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:10pm
  21. The woman has the right to chose her customers. If dissatisfied with this florist they should have gone to a more friendly and less hateful florist. I don’t think either party has a suit here. She’s just a tired old fundamentalist and will never change!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:11pm
  22. I do believe that business owners should have a right to refuse service to someone for legitimate reasons. However I do think her criteria for doing so is ridiculous and obviously violates the states anti-discrimination laws. May her reputation precede her.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:11pm
  23. Stop crying discrimination ! This isn’t a public service !!!! This isn’t state or federal services !!!! It’s flowers !! I’m sure there are plenty of gay florist in their area invest in them !

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:11pm
  24. If she sues, she’s not going to win. Its law, she can’t deny selling someone merchandise based on sexual orientation. She’s going to back out. Its so sad, she’s losing business because she’s such a homophobic moron.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:12pm
  25. That is SHOCKING. >:(

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:12pm
  26. Ok so if I’m a lesbian florist shop owner and I refuse heterosexuals service, what happens?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:12pm
  27. When will people realize that freedom of religion doesn’t mean freedom to be an asshole.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:13pm
  28. you would think she would want their money for her business

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:13pm
  29. This couple already had everything in place for their ceremony. The day of the ceremony this florist decides she isn’t going to fill the order. This isn’t a simple go somewhere else. You can’t get an order that large that last minute.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:13pm
  30. They would lose business and money simple answer

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:13pm
  31. bigotry has nothing to do with religion

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:13pm
  32. Put her out of business

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:14pm
  33. Nope, the law says she cannot refuse service based on sexual orientation.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:14pm
  34. We have started a very active boycott page for activists who want to stop this kind of discrimination https://www.facebook.com/pages/Boycott-Arlenes-Flowers-Richland-WA/574392162579736

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:14pm
  35. Gays should stay home from work for a month and see what happens to this country!!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:14pm
  36. RICHLAND WASHINGTON:
    INGNORANT WOMEN, MAKES AN EVEN BIGGER FOOL OF HERSELF BY FILING FRIVLOUS LAWSUIT AGAINST STATE!
    Does this dummy know that when she loses the case, she can and should be charged with paying all of the defending lawyers fees?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:14pm
  37. I find it interesting that you’d be willing to file suit because your “god,” agrees with your bigotry, what a crazy arrogant bitch.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:15pm
  38. she should just shut up and let people realize what she is. a biget and one hell of a homophobe.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:15pm
  39. I’d file a suit against her, violating human rights, and for being stupid

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:15pm
  40. this is the most stupidest thing ever

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:16pm
  41. Promise your being discriminating people USING your religious belief…So…Go on old hag. Let me see you try to tell everyone your old cavemen ways.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:17pm
  42. If your religious beliefs focus on prejudice you need to reevaluate your beliefs. Your rights end at the point where you start infringing on other people’s rights.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:17pm
  43. Go directly to hell

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:19pm
  44. let us know when this suit gets dismissed for frivolity, will ya? :)

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:21pm
  45. Sour old prune!! I hope she is forced out of business. bitch.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:23pm
  46. now the ag will point out for her to get out of business or move to iran where her religious beliefs could get her shot

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:23pm
  47. Such a bigoted old bag. Religion period should be love and peace not lets be a snobbish turd face.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:23pm
  48. actually Move to iran & please tell people ur hristiam so u can be prosecuted there too

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:24pm
  49. Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:24pm
  50. She has the right to be a fucking bitch if she so desires.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:24pm
  51. … Lotsa-LUCK-sweetie!?! LOL!!!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:26pm
  52. “Under state law, it’s illegal for businesses to refuse to sell goods, merchandise and services to any person because of their sexual orientation.”

    that is the law.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:26pm
  53. what a pos bitch ,,realy over selling flowers ,,

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:27pm
  54. Ick I wonder how many men she turned gay herself… It’s called plastic surgery! Try it cunt!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:28pm
  55. Let the hate continue. We can’t stop it, just fight against it. Think of our Gay bothers and sisters who have given their lives for us. Never stop fighting. Never give up.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:29pm
  56. she’s BREAKING THE LAW of that state…..SHUT HER BUSINESS DOWN

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:30pm
  57. Haha Austin Wood you fuckin crack me up

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:30pm
  58. If I owned a floral shop and she had come in saying she needed flowers for a christian wedding and I had refused her service because I think organized religion is poison, I wonder what her thoughts would have been. Just shut up and cut the flowers.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:30pm
  59. Vicious c*nt!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:31pm
  60. Laws, Society and Truth overpower Religious beliefs!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:32pm
  61. Oh I’m sorry, I can’t do that because it is AGAINST THE LAW.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:32pm
  62. Austin, I wish I was Gay because of ugly women, but buddy, it goes deeper…much deeper. Love ya though .

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:33pm
  63. i’m wondering if she fully understands the law?…..and HOW, she found a law firm to take her case…..bet it’s some how connected to “relgion” :P

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:33pm
  64. i find it fuck up how relegoius people are better when there not God lvoes everyobdy for who they are ….. my firendd jadin bell killed him self and its sad

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:34pm
  65. aparently, she feels that it doesn’t include her…..she needs a a retirement home, with others who are closed-minded BIGOTS

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:35pm
  66. Hey if she doesn’t want to their business, that’s less money for her.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:35pm
  67. What do your beliefs have to do with a business???????

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:37pm
  68. that’s NOT the issue…..there is a STATE LAW, saying she CAN’T DISCRIMINATE, simply because they are gay and it goes against her religion…..she is BREAKING THE DAMN LAW….what part of that, do you NOT understand????

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:38pm
  69. HELLO seperation of church and state!!!!!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:38pm
  70. Yeah and watch her Lose and when it goes all the way to the Supreme Court it will either be dismissed or they’ll rule against. Her just watch.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:40pm
  71. and you can’t tell men, she wasn’t ALREADY aware that the couple are GAY….being she’s sold them flowers in the past…..and she’s breaking a state law.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:40pm
  72. We cant have a wed in a church ,well fine I get that but can we only have flowers ?!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:40pm
  73. It’s NOT her choice when it violates the law.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:40pm
  74. What part of crying wolf and wreaking our community do you NOT understand ! It’s her business if she wants be a stupid Homophobe and give business to gays that’s her problem ! Boycott and protest invest in GAY Business that’s Improve our community not weak !
    Next thing We are going to have business have to hire us because were gay! That’s wrong and stupid ! Lets be stronger than is ! Stop crying wolf and INVEST in our gay community dump the porn stores and bars! Being In family friendly business and Wedding florist bakeries for our wedding gay money into gay business ! fuck her and her religious believes! Let her Business die if her business ! It’s a public state or even federal service ! She’s going to lose money she’s going to go out of business!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:44pm
  75. crazy bitch!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:44pm
  76. if your store has nothing to do with religion i don’t see how it violates it.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:44pm
  77. Imagine if she went to a hardware store and the clerk asked if she was Christian…and then refused service to her on that basis…she’d be filing suit claiming discrimination. You’re gonna lose, sweetheart.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:44pm
  78. I wonder how many straight couples she turned away bc they were living together before they were married, or bc the bride wasn’t a virgin, or does she turn away people that are from different religions? IF NOT! Then she’s a traight up BIGOT!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:44pm
  79. Sorry Austin, I am sad you’re friend couldn’t find piece. You were his friend. That’s one for Austin!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:44pm
  80. Why let a business owner get away with breaking the law. If a restaurant gave you hepatitis would you just let it go?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:46pm
  81. There is no such choice when the law says differently.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:46pm
  82. Everyone should call her and order a big package….then go… Oh wait you are homophobic…..forget it bitch!!!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:47pm
  83. As retailer, one should NEVER discriminate against ANYONE. It’s that simple…you run a business, sell a product that people want, so sell it. Personal views should not weigh in on the matter.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:47pm
  84. This is where wisdom and advocacy meet in a very blurry minefield. Personally, I agree with the statements regarding the right to take business elsewhere. If she is that passioante, she could relocate to Idaho. The statement of law is very clear regarding Washington’s position on this issue. Yet, she could reorganize as a religious for profit business. She would have a lot of work to achieve that, and has no done so. Therefore, under statue of the state, she incorperated under oath with the Secretary of State in which she did business. The two orginal litigants have established prima facie. She has not clearly done so in her state. The jurisprudence in these type of cases has been pretty straightforward with some exemptions, yet she has not sent any motions to challange under any legitmate pleadings, since she has not the necessary compensatory burden of proof in her grievance. (This might be a clear case of stare decisis-let the decision stand). That decision, is the statue of law.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:48pm
  85. Well, it’s time to dust off the ole picket signs.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:49pm
  86. I sense a social experiment coming on…let’s test this! :)

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:49pm
  87. I am ready

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:49pm
  88. As much as I hate to say it, she has the right to refuse because it conflicts with her personal beliefs (as horribly wrong as they may be.)

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:49pm
  89. give it a rest lady

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:51pm
  90. Okay, so if she says won’t do business with Jews Lenzie…that would be okay?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:51pm
  91. The presiding rule is that under privity of social contract, she obliges to all local and state laws, as a business owner.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:51pm
  92. I want to say the funniest part of this is A. She’s filing a lawsuit when its been illegal to discriminate because of sexual orientation in her state since 2006, and B. She has apparently given her services to these men many of times before this wedding flower outrage. Which clearly makes her breaking the law. Ohhh when I didn’t know they were gay I could sell them flowers but ohhh now they are labeled and shining as 2 gay men to me, I must not sell them flowers. If its is against your religion then your already going to hell for prior sales. J/S…

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:51pm
  93. But say if that woman denied a couple because they were african-american, asian, hispanic, or based on ethnicity instead of sexuality it would be in the national headlines.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:52pm
  94. Lenzie… Open mouth… Shit comes out!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:52pm
  95. if you are in love you are in love, CUNT

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:53pm
  96. What a bitch.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:53pm
  97. She doesn’t have the right to choose not to serve people because of sexual orientation. It’s against the law. She has the right to her opinion and bigoted beliefs, but it can’t dictate how she does business. She’s a criminal.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:54pm
  98. Fuckin fags….nasty as shit lol

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:55pm
  99. OMG…Linzie, are you a Natzi or what ? You can’t do business like that in this age. You crazy girl!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:55pm
  100. Take your religion out of your business and put it back in your church where it belongs. It would be nice to see everyone boycott her business because of the religious doorway involved.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:55pm
  101. There is a different from religious beliefs and discrimination laws.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:55pm
  102. And the discrimination laws come first.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:56pm
  103. You would be suing the state, too … maybe?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:56pm
  104. Lomon you fuckin gash…you nasty cunt

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:56pm
  105. This is why it’s so important to pass non-discrimination laws. General laws don’t seem to be applicable to gays and lesbians if they “violate” someone’s personal beliefs. She can believe what she wants, but in her state, it’s against the law to deny services on the basis of sexual orientation, as it should be.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:57pm
  106. Lemon, can’t tell what sex you are you ugly piece of garbage

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:58pm
  107. Alex…. NOT!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 8:59pm
  108. Looool im alfa male u bitch…and im awesome

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:00pm
  109. Alex, you must have been born in a hen house

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:00pm
  110. Most of the gay people I know would want to seek a gay friendly vendor to cast their money votes with. Was this the only vendor in the area?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:00pm
  111. You as ugly a as shit Lomon

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:01pm
  112. Witch Please !!!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:01pm
  113. And hello Lomon….what are you a Jap or a Chink?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:02pm
  114. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess that Barronelle Stutzman is absolutely no fun.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:03pm
  115. A private club can select its membership. When you open your business doors to accept the public’s cash, you are open to the public and are obligated to sell them your product or service.

    You can’t expect to open your business to the public and then play picky-choosy.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:03pm
  116. What ever you are…I am sure your dick is finger length Lamont

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:04pm
  117. Or Lomon…. The meaning of Lomon….looser, junk, trash , worthless

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:06pm
  118. What if my religious beliefs are to discriminate against Christians…? Is that allowed?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:06pm
  119. Get a life, honey.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:07pm
  120. No

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:07pm
  121. Looool ben ten…hay why u barkin? Lol butthurt huh!? Hay get some relax…if u see me in personal u ll opeb your mouth to blow me u fag bitch

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:08pm
  122. LOL Lomon, you are probably right

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:10pm
  123. But I got your attention

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:11pm
  124. Truse?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:12pm
  125. Pass the word around the state and area of this bigot florist to not buy one single flower from her.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:13pm
  126. I get kinda worked up, I am sorry Lomon , I was crazy bitch.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:14pm
  127. Fuck yeah lol im straight

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:16pm
  128. I don’t care

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:16pm
  129. You are funny. But I can’t count on my toes and fingers on the straight guys I had. But I am not looking.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:19pm
  130. Her flower shop is not a place of worship. It is a place of business to serve all the public, not just whom she chooses. No one is violating her religious beliefs. She has the freedom to practice those beliefs in her church or home. If your business discriminates, maybe you should not be in business.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:19pm
  131. This entire story is stupid. You mean to tell me that was the only florist in Washington? Really? Go sit down somewhere. It’s not that damn serious. If she doesn’t want to sell to you, take your money to someone who can RESPECT you. Suing isn’t going to do a damn thing. Seriously now…. I’m tired of people acting a hot fool over homosexuality. If people don’t like it, STOP FORCING IT DOWN PEOPLE’S THROATS. Fuckin’ A! The cost it takes to buy some flowers just tripled because your dumbasses want to sue over some DAMN flowers.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:19pm
  132. Maybe she should consider a different line of business.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:21pm
  133. As an individual, she is entitled to religious freedom, But a business cannot use the owners religious preferences in running the business. She has to provide the same services to everyone. As a business, she is not entitled to animus.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:22pm
  134. Acting crazy over some g’damn daises. SMMFH!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:22pm
  135. Hey Lomon, I’ll just be a fan. Is that okay?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:24pm
  136. She has the right to her opinions, but when she opens a business, she has to follow the law. The business cannot reflect the religious preference of it’s owner.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:25pm
  137. Last time I checked money was GREEN, it didn’t have a gender!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:25pm
  138. Right on the money.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:26pm
  139. Well I don’t like it, but is that even illegal? Don’t business owners have the right to refuse service to whomever they choose? I don’t like this…

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:28pm
  140. No they don’t, unless they the drunk or being abusive.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:37pm
  141. The sign …we have the right to refuse service to anyone…does not apply here.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:38pm
  142. lol

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:39pm
  143. The basic fact is that this florist served this couple for NINE YEARS & they had a good relationship with her prior to this incident. Why did she not have a problem with them sending flowers to each other for 9+ YEARS (knowing they were gay) but suddenly she refuses to provide flowers for their wedding? It seems it didn’t go against her beliefs to provide flowers to facilitate their romance, just not their wedding. How is that NOT discrimation?

    Basic fact #2 is that discrimation based on their sexual orientation is ILLEGAL.
    Washington Law Against Discrimination, found in RCW 49.60.030, the Freedom from discrimination – Declaration of civil rights.
    (1) The right to be free from discrimination because of race, creed, color, national origin, sex, honorably discharged veteran or military status, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, or the presence of any sensory, mental, or physical disability or the use of a trained dog guide or service animal by a person with a disability is recognized as and declared to be a civil right.

    The bottom line is that she broke the law. Personally she can be anti-gay marriage, etc all she wants but from a business standpoint she can’t in the state of Washington. Period.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:40pm
  144. Bigoted bitch

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:43pm
  145. Laura, thank you.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:47pm
  146. What if, for instance, a black person came into a business but the business owner had beliefs against serving someone who didn’t share their skin color, would it then be alright for them to be turned away? Prior to 1964 it would have been. What if a business owner didn’t agree with how you wore your hair, (maybe it reminds them of their ex) would it be alright for them to refuse you service based on that reason? When you lay down the tired “a business has the right to refuse service for ANY reason” you open doors for anyone to discriminate for ANY reason they feel like. There is a reason discrimination laws are in place, to protect the majority of the people from those who practice ignorance & bigotry. Are the laws perfect? No, but nothing in this world is perfect.

    If you are causing an uproar & violating the rights or safety of others a business has the right to not do business with that individual. If a person enters a food establishment without clothing, that presents the possibility of creating unsanitary conditions & endangering others. Just because someone doesn’t agree with or has beliefs against how someone else leads their life is not sufficient reason to deny service, ESPECIALLY when you have served that person for the previous 9 years knowing of that lifestyle, as did this florist.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:55pm
  147. If a store owner is going to have a PUBLC place of business, than there is no longer an argument that religious beliefs are being violated…if her religious beliefs were against African Americans she’d lose the argument, so what makes LGBT any different?!..

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:55pm
  148. Lol.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:55pm
  149. Right on!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 9:57pm
  150. How is selling flowers vioalating her religious beliefs? Its not like they asked her to attend the wedding! Ignorant, but with our dumb goverment, she might just win…

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:08pm
  151. I don’t think her lawsuit will prosper. There’s LOTS of precedent that a commercial business like a florist is not a religious organization and can’t discriminate on religious grounds. She is free to believe that gay people shouldn’t be allowed to marry, but she can’t put that belief into action by discriminating against business customers.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:12pm
  152. She’s a fool.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:16pm
  153. History shows, discriminating is wrong. History never lies.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:17pm
  154. Hope then bitch loses and loses the business

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:18pm
  155. By history I don’t men propaganda!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:19pm
  156. She needs tolerance therapy. What religion? Hate?

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:29pm
  157. Methinks she doth protest too much…

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:30pm
  158. We now got 2 cases in Oregon too! It is time to fight for equal treatment under the law. Yes it takes time and we may not avoid all discrimination, but this is a blatant clear example of religious people enforcing their beliefs on others. This is America – not JesusLand!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:37pm
  159. She’s so gay

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 10:51pm
  160. she’s going to hell for cutting her hair and wearing clothing of mixed material and well for being a woman and speaking, thats some of the things i have gotten from the bible! lol

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 11:07pm
  161. Probably a member of the Fundamentalism Church that poured $$$$ “quietly” into State Politicians and their Lobbyists, that fought against LGBT’s fight for the right to MARRY, just like her! All over a bunch a flowers = a lawsuit. The State didn’t violate her religious bigotry and hatred. She created that all by herself!!!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 11:08pm
  162. She is not being forced to change her religious beliefs by the state. She can keep her religious beliefs, just close down her business if she cannot abide by civil law.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 11:10pm
  163. OMGoodNESS! really lady!! Business is Business, And if you turn one away your hurting urself not anyone else

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 11:11pm
  164. Does she sell her flowers out of a church? I mean if it’s a business her religious beliefs have no place at all…..

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 11:20pm
  165. The law is the law and it is not unjust. You still can pray and be religious, but you don’t get to be a bigot!

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 11:20pm
  166. beliefs in fiction dont trump human dignity, you jackass.

    Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2013 at 11:43pm
  167. ok but,,,, she isnt and has never discriminated against them for orientation,, she just doesnt want to participate in their wedding because she doesnt believe its right or that the state should force her to knowingly participate. I guess it may be my midwest upbringing , but i say leave her alone. and spend our groovy gay bucks at places that have a more forward thinking policy. i want to know who hates me. i do not want to put one penny in the pocket of some secretly bigoted hater. she may be afraid of guilt by association ,, she looks kinda butch.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 12:36am
  168. This was basically a perfectly written short essay. xD

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 12:52am
  169. YES. SO MUCH TRUTH.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 12:54am
  170. Some religious group using this woman’s situation to get some publicity. Considering the state law, she has no right to refuse. However, if she chooses to make herself a custom shop that caters only to Catholics or other groups that discriminate, she may, in future, deny service to gays. But she will only be able to accept clients who are Catholic or fundamentalist Christian and if she ever accepted work outside her stated service niche, she could be sued again for discrimination.

    Again, what does she care about who is paying for her services? I suppose if I was a florist I wouldn’t feel so kindly to providing flowers to a bigoted fundamentalist service, but I’d still serve them as people with rights to live their lives. And maybe our interaction would be a chance to show them gays are just as cool and top notch (if not more so) than any other business owner. Instead of being elitist and exclusionary, how about this woman choose to show us the love of Christ by serving weddings for all people and using it as a chance to model good, loving, Christian morals and behavior. Christ served all people, even those his apostles thought were rejects and beneath him. Discrimination and bigotry are NOT Christian values.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 1:54am
  171. Her idiot ism will never win.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 3:19am
  172. if I was the judge i would thorw this out, there is seperaton between church and state, however there are laws to protect minority classes in this country. She is entitled to believe what she wants, hatred is not a religion

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 3:54am
  173. Stupid, Biotch!!!

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 3:57am
  174. Uhhh…she has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 4:00am
  175. deeply held beliefs my ass, she sold them flowers for 10 damn years so as long as they just fucked it’s ok but don’t get married….crazy hypocritical old bitch!

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 4:15am
  176. Shame on you .I’m sure God is laughiing as he cross’s you off the kindness list.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 4:35am
  177. Sad let people alone, sell them flowers and if they don’t want to sell the flowers their lose. Lack of love!

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 4:58am
  178. you dont think that the gay couple will file a law suit against you B I T C H

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 5:14am
  179. Boycott the bigot. Run her business into the ground. Old fart!

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 6:21am
  180. F her very much, homophobic B. Sigh.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 6:22am
  181. How convenient to claim religious beliefs now and not when this couple originally came in, before they both spent thousands of dollars in her shop. They were just as gay then as they are now. She needs to remind herself daily of her actions- she accepted them then, took their money and profited from them then and now wants to take action claiming religious right? No, it doesn’t work that way.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 6:48am
  182. Tressa, I have to say she DID know they were gay, this is so ridiculous! She’s had a personal, business friendship with this couple from the start. So she clearly accepts them as being gay as long as they don’t try to push their “gayness” into her life. She’s ridiculous and I really hope her home state rally’s and makes this woman realize her very illegal and personal bad decision.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 6:50am
  183. Exactly.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 6:55am
  184. Does she ask to see the Baptismal records of every couple? Check the religious practices of all the officiants of all the weddings she provides flowers for? Does she refuse to do flowers for atheists? What a bigot!

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 7:01am
  185. Bigot!!! what is she afraid of??!! duh!

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 7:20am
  186. She is a hypocrite

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 7:21am
  187. Boycott!!!!

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 7:28am
  188. All she had to do was the right thing. To sell the damn flowers and not make it about her personal “beliefs”. But she did the wrong thing, and now wants to shift the responsibility to someone else. This is all her fault for being a bigot.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 7:33am
  189. Don’t worry, she is already heading down that road herself. What an incredible fool.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 7:38am
  190. Dork. Just ignore and pick a good florist!

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 7:42am
  191. My question would be… WHY would they want to spend their hard earned money there? I am sure there are plenty of other florist in the area. By doing this kind of ridiculous behavior, it appears to the “straight” public that we are PUSHING our belief system on them. It isn’t any different that they do not agree with our lifestyle than us just simply wanting our rights to be noticed. So I pray they drop the suit get their flowers somewhere else and move on. LETS STOP THIS !!!!!!!! We are moving forward do not drag us back down!

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 7:48am
  192. It’s amazing how little some people know about the law. NO…Businesses do NOT have the right ti refuse services to whomever they want. Mr. Garza…What if she chose to refuse service to those with Hispanic surnames? Or to women? If they withhold services for a discriminatory reason, then they are subject to prosecution.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 8:03am
  193. The real question is who is paying for the lawsuit. Bet its not the florist.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 8:11am
  194. Fortunately she doesn’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to her lawsuit. It is illegal to discriminate based on sexual orientation and that is what she did. She’s going down.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 8:12am
  195. Wow…wow…I love it when people respond to being called out on their bad behavior with “waaah, I’m being bullied!”.

    You know, like a 5 year old on time out does. Ugh.

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 9:38am
  196. Her religion condones bigotry?

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 9:40am
  197. She not a butch?

    Posted on Friday, May 17, 2013 at 9:47am