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Barber, Staver: When the Constitution was written, homosexuality was a ‘crime against nature’

KYLE MANTYLA | Right Wing Watch
Monday, February 11, 2013

Mat Staver and Matt Barber were discussing the two amicus briefs that Liberty Counsel has filed with the Supreme Court for the hearings on the Defense of Marriage Act and Proposition 8, claiming that it is “absurd” to think that the Constitution guarantees any right to same-sex marriage because at the time the Constitution was written, homosexuality was widely considered to be a “crime against nature.”

As Barber explained, “the aberrant sexual behavior, the twisting of normal human sexuality that would be involved in order to consummate a so-called same-sex marriage” carried a punishment of death at the time the Constitution was written, so “there is now way that they would have ever intended that they would twist and deconstruct the fundamental cornerstone institution of marriage in order to put the government’s official stamp of approval on a crime against nature”:

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29 more reader comments:

  1. And Blacks were cattle, what’s your point?

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:03pm
  2. That is crap logic at it’s best.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:05pm
  3. … “Liberty Counsel”-IS-Facist!

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:05pm
  4. omg what planet are these guys from? it may have been, and guess what ? africans were 3/5′s of a person. but guess what? WE LEARN,WE GROW,WE CHANGE OUR PERCEPTIONS. this is 2013 damn it, not 1798 !!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:06pm
  5. WHERE in the Constitution and/or The Bill of Rights is the term “marriage” or “Traditional marriage” written?

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:06pm
  6. could be wrong of course but “A LOT of things have changed since the late 18th Century. African-Americans are no longer considered 3/5ths of a person, women can vote and own their own property even after they get married, and people of different races can marry each other. I wish these people would just admit that the reason they don’t want gays and lesbians to get married is that they find it ‘icky’.”

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:07pm
  7. and blacks and women had no rights.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:08pm
  8. Like many of the HATERS, they seem to live in centuries passed, like 17th, 18th century, instead of, with the rest of us in the 21st!! K follow that logic, women are “possessions” of their husbands, women have no right to vote, black people are “less than full men”, and there are only 13 states in the Union.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:10pm
  9. Freakin’ dumbass.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:11pm
  10. Actually, this man is telling the truth, The Constitution was written when homosexuality was hated. Be that as it may, the 9th Amendment specifically states that no amendments cannot be taken literally as it is written ergo his point can be used against him which most of us who support gay marriage do

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:13pm
  11. yeah and when it was written, gluttony was a sin – so that overweight pig would be guilty of one of the “seven deadly sins”.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:14pm
  12. Oh, I’m sorry. Are we basing current law and social norms on slavery-era judgements?

    …didn’t think so.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:18pm
  13. Yeah, well when that was written we were not flying up at 35,000 feet either. Humans in the air flying at 425 mph in an oxygen enhanced tube is pretty damn unnatural too. Whats your point?

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:20pm
  14. And the Republicans keep asking how in the hell did we lose?

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:27pm
  15. also… women couldn’t vote or run for public office, African-Americans were legally considered to be only 3/5 a person, and the Constitution IS a “living” document not a “dead” one as Scalia believes. I don’t see the correlation.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:38pm
  16. When the Constitution was written, people didn’t have electric lights or indoor plumbing.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:40pm
  17. That is Bullshit

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 7:55pm
  18. hence perhaps the constitution needs to be updated ???

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 8:07pm
  19. and slavery was legal and women not allowed to vote or own property – so what exactly is his point

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 8:17pm
  20. They will stretch anything to justify their hate.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 8:30pm
  21. Their point is hatred, bigotry, and sexism. I’m sure our founding father (with a woman’s.. and surely sometimes a fellow man’s love and support) went into the drafting of the Constitution that serve the majority of people at the time. Like the comments above.. times have changed. People have changed. Time to evolve or die off.

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 8:37pm
  22. if being bi is a crime then im one badass outlaw

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 8:46pm
  23. yes slavery was legal, women could be beat with a stick, children were chattel…and?

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 8:54pm
  24. duct tape will not fix stupid…just quieten the noise!

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 8:54pm
  25. uh huh…what’s your point, guys?

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 9:16pm
  26. And slavery was an acceptable practice. And women were chattel.So?

    Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 at 11:13pm
  27. And?! Back then, slavery was normal, too. Their defense is completely ridiculous.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 at 3:24am
  28. Let’s not confuse the Constitution with the bible.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 at 6:34am
  29. some people are just stupid. plain and simple.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 12, 2013 at 8:34am