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Mat Staver and Matt Barber were discussing the two amicus briefs that Liberty Counsel has filed with the Supreme Court for the hearings on the Defense of Marriage Act and Proposition 8, claiming that it is “absurd” to think that the Constitution guarantees any right to same-sex marriage because at the time the Constitution was written, homosexuality was widely considered to be a “crime against nature.”
As Barber explained, “the aberrant sexual behavior, the twisting of normal human sexuality that would be involved in order to consummate a so-called same-sex marriage” carried a punishment of death at the time the Constitution was written, so “there is now way that they would have ever intended that they would twist and deconstruct the fundamental cornerstone institution of marriage in order to put the government’s official stamp of approval on a crime against nature”:
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And Blacks were cattle, what’s your point?
That is crap logic at it’s best.
… “Liberty Counsel”-IS-Facist!
omg what planet are these guys from? it may have been, and guess what ? africans were 3/5′s of a person. but guess what? WE LEARN,WE GROW,WE CHANGE OUR PERCEPTIONS. this is 2013 damn it, not 1798 !!!!!!!!!!!
WHERE in the Constitution and/or The Bill of Rights is the term “marriage” or “Traditional marriage” written?
could be wrong of course but “A LOT of things have changed since the late 18th Century. African-Americans are no longer considered 3/5ths of a person, women can vote and own their own property even after they get married, and people of different races can marry each other. I wish these people would just admit that the reason they don’t want gays and lesbians to get married is that they find it ‘icky’.”
and blacks and women had no rights.
Like many of the HATERS, they seem to live in centuries passed, like 17th, 18th century, instead of, with the rest of us in the 21st!! K follow that logic, women are “possessions” of their husbands, women have no right to vote, black people are “less than full men”, and there are only 13 states in the Union.
Freakin’ dumbass.
Actually, this man is telling the truth, The Constitution was written when homosexuality was hated. Be that as it may, the 9th Amendment specifically states that no amendments cannot be taken literally as it is written ergo his point can be used against him which most of us who support gay marriage do
yeah and when it was written, gluttony was a sin – so that overweight pig would be guilty of one of the “seven deadly sins”.
Oh, I’m sorry. Are we basing current law and social norms on slavery-era judgements?
…didn’t think so.
Yeah, well when that was written we were not flying up at 35,000 feet either. Humans in the air flying at 425 mph in an oxygen enhanced tube is pretty damn unnatural too. Whats your point?
And the Republicans keep asking how in the hell did we lose?
also… women couldn’t vote or run for public office, African-Americans were legally considered to be only 3/5 a person, and the Constitution IS a “living” document not a “dead” one as Scalia believes. I don’t see the correlation.
When the Constitution was written, people didn’t have electric lights or indoor plumbing.
That is Bullshit
hence perhaps the constitution needs to be updated ???
and slavery was legal and women not allowed to vote or own property – so what exactly is his point
They will stretch anything to justify their hate.
Their point is hatred, bigotry, and sexism. I’m sure our founding father (with a woman’s.. and surely sometimes a fellow man’s love and support) went into the drafting of the Constitution that serve the majority of people at the time. Like the comments above.. times have changed. People have changed. Time to evolve or die off.
if being bi is a crime then im one badass outlaw
yes slavery was legal, women could be beat with a stick, children were chattel…and?
duct tape will not fix stupid…just quieten the noise!
uh huh…what’s your point, guys?
And slavery was an acceptable practice. And women were chattel.So?
And?! Back then, slavery was normal, too. Their defense is completely ridiculous.
Let’s not confuse the Constitution with the bible.
some people are just stupid. plain and simple.