Follow breaking news @lgbtqnation
Indiana

Indiana gay marriage opponents press forward, even as tides shift

Supporters of a constitutional ban say the issue isn’t about business needs or discrimination, it’s about faith and values
Saturday, February 8, 2014
AJ Mast, APIndiana state Rep. Eric Turner speaks during debate on a proposed amendment to the state's constitution to ban same-sex marriage in the House of Representatives at the Statehouse in Indianapolis, Tuesday, Jan. 28, 2014.

AJ Mast, AP
Indiana state Rep. Eric Turner speaks during debate on a proposed amendment to the state’s constitution to ban same-sex marriage in the House of Representatives at the Statehouse in Indianapolis, Tuesday, Jan. 28, 2014.

INDIANAPOLIS — Opponents of same-sex marriage have spent more than a decade working to ensure that Indiana stayed true to its conservative roots by strengthening its stance against gay unions. But in a year that was expected to bring a crucial victory, they find themselves facing a strong headwind.

Federal courts have overturned same-sex marriage bans in Oklahoma, Utah and New Mexico, and 19 states now allow gay marriage or civil unions.

Even in Indiana, support for a proposed amendment that would insert the state’s ban on gay marriage into the constitution is wavering amid concerns about its impact on businesses’ ability to attract top workers and offer domestic partner benefits.

Impassioned supporters of the ban aren’t daunted. For them, the issue isn’t about business needs or discrimination. It’s about faith and values that they say would be compromised if Indiana doesn’t take the extra step to ensure marriage can be between only a man and a woman.

“I believe we need to reinforce marriage and define marriage … or we are going to open up through sexual anarchy all types of confusion in our country, especially with what’s happening with our young people,” Ron Johnson, executive of the Indiana Pastors Alliance, told a House committee during a recent hearing on the amendment.

Indiana has long been a champion of conservative causes, from right-to-work legislation to restrictions on abortion. Lawmakers launched the nation’s broadest school voucher program and have cracked down on illegal immigration in recent years. But it lacks the reputation as a hotbed of social or religious conservatism that other, mostly southern, states have.

Only 46 percent of Indiana residents considered themselves “very religious” in a Gallup report published at the start of the month, said Gallup Polls editor in chief Frank Newport. That’s lower than Mississippi’s 61 percent and well above Vermont’s 22 percent, the lowest in the nation. The national average was about 41 percent.

Indiana’s status in the middle of the pack could be compounding the fight over the gay marriage amendment, which passed with broad bipartisan support in 2011 but must pass again this year to be placed on the November ballot.

Recent polls have shown increasing numbers of Indiana voters oppose a constitutional ban, even though most still oppose gay marriage. And even lawmakers who supported the ban in 2011 are questioning whether it would be better to let the issue die instead of putting the state in what’s likely to become a protracted legal battle. Activists on both sides of the issue say the U.S. Supreme Court ultimately will decide the issue for Indiana and other states.

“When I cast this vote to support this measure in 2011 it was one of the easiest votes I ever cast,” said Rep. Kevin Mahan, R-Hartford City. “I believe in marriage between one man and one woman and my constituents overwhelmingly did as well.”

Mahan said he began to have doubts this year after constituents of various political and religious stripes began asking him to oppose the measure and a pair of Christian colleges in his district decided not to take a stance on the issue.

Other lawmakers have stood fast, saying their faith is the reason they stand by the proposed ban.

“Somebody said to me ‘You know what, Burton? Part of what your problem is, is you let your faith get in the way,’” said Rep. Woody Burton, R-Whiteland. “I said ‘I certainly hope so.’ I’m not ashamed of it. I’m not going to back away from it.”

Religious groups pushing the amendment have used their weekends to activate digital networks of supporters. Indianapolis-based Advance America has provided phone numbers, emails and a call script, to pressure senators to restore the civil unions language that was stripped by the House when the chamber takes up the measure next week.

The Indiana Family Institute has sent out Facebook blasts urging supporters to press lawmakers. Referencing the ram’s horn used to rally troops in biblical accounts, the group wrote on its page, “I’d blow the Shofar if I had one. Now is the time to act.”

Opponents of the amendment, including universities, top employers and many mayors, have walked a careful line, avoiding discussions of morality while arguing that banning gay marriage in the constitution would hurt the state’s pro-business image.

They claimed a victory when the Republican-controlled House voted cut out language that would also bar civil unions, a move that could restart the amendment process and delay a potential ballot vote until 2016. But they know the civil unions language could resurface before the Legislature adjourns in mid-March.

© 2014, Associated Press, All Rights Reserved.
This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Share this article with your friends and followers:

Archives: , ,

Filed under: Indiana

153 more reader comments:

  1. Silly old ppl, still believe in fairy tales.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:38pm
  2. bunch of old men.. pffttt

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:38pm
  3. i hate my state sooo much.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:38pm
  4. I hate it here too :/

    Replied on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:43pm
  5. Indiana land of the backward and ignorant especially in the governors office and the assembly. hopefully enlightenment has started to take hold amongst the people.

    Replied on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:33pm
  6. Me too. Things need to change.

    Replied on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:00pm
  7. Is anyone seeing the ages of these people in the photo? Damn they need to force some retirements.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:40pm
  8. If this was about right or wrong, that would be one thing, but this is about HATE. The world is better with more love in it. If it weren’t fair to the children, I would wish each of these parents had a straight child married to a gay or lesbian one, and then they could see the misery they wish on their children. Instead I pray these folks learn the truth of LOVE…

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:41pm
  9. Stupid homophobes!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:41pm
  10. Oh? I’m sorry I thought your faith couldn’t dictate law. SHM…

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:41pm
  11. i hate this fucking state- so damn backwards and behind the times-

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:43pm
  12. Faith? What about separation of church and state?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:44pm
  13. Are they aware we will still be gay? Only question is whether we will be committed or promiscuous.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:44pm
  14. its not about law and due process. its about theocracy. thanks for clearing that up

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:45pm
  15. Whatever happened to the separation of church and state?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:45pm
  16. “Congress (and states upon ratification of the constitution) shall not make any law regarding the establishment of religion or abridging the free exercise thereof.”

    The minute ‘faith and values’ enter the argument, is the minute that this clause becomes violated.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:45pm
  17. Separation of church and state?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:47pm
  18. And this is why I am ashamed to be a Hoosier…

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:47pm
  19. disgusting pigs of men telling us how we should live our lives,… i thought these people were supposed to be our employees not aristocracy of narcissists most of which rent even qualified to do their jobs any more than you or i. this is exactly why i want to work in government, it is time we had elected officials who listen to their communities and do as they are told instead of this power hungry bullshit, they are not “leaders”they are civic servants, elected officials put in their positions of power by the people. why is it then that they dont ask or listen before pushing this nonsense.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:47pm
  20. Whatever happened to the rule, separation of church and state?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:47pm
  21. The reason why my state doesn’t have marriage equality is because of orientation and that to me is nothing but a bunch of bull-ish. My state and other states need a lot of improvement and we need to stand together and fight hard until all the nasty bigots can’t take no more and go crying home.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:48pm
  22. Its about holding down people that shine!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:50pm
  23. Their faith & values are controlled by a terribly written book by a cult of men about about lies & fantasy at a time when science was non-existent. Any book that ‘teaches’ how to treat your slaves or how many goats you can trade your daughter off to so she can marry your cousin or rapist has no values.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:51pm
  24. Yeah the values and faith of BIGOTS

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:53pm
  25. But wait, what happened to separation of church & state?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:54pm
  26. What if you have no faith in their values and see no value in their faith?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:55pm
  27. Do I get to make laws forcing my values back onto you, too?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:56pm
  28. Look in the room! Mostly all old white men. Lol

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:57pm
  29. Indiana will rue the day that they enshrine bigotry and hate in their constitution! I’ve been to Indianapolis 500, but will never return again if this hateful law passes! Will also boycott Eli Lilly and other Indiana based company products.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:57pm
  30. Faith. Which should have absolutely nothing to do with government.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:58pm
  31. Then get some new values like Love and equality!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:58pm
  32. Well, if that is true then we can all start discriminating against the muslim because they’re all terrorist right?,Mormans because they’re all annoying, Jews, catholics and every religion out there because everyone knows that religion is the root of all evil!!! Sounds far fetch right? That is what going to happen if this law goes through. I hate when small minded, holier than thou group of people think they are better than others!! News flash…you’re NOT!!! We all cry the same, we all bleed the same color blood, we all hurt, heal and love the same. God made us all in his image and made us all equal!! Go ahead…slap God in the face and tell him he screwed up!!! I am more than happy to open the gates of Hell for you!!:-)

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 7:59pm
  33. What a load of crap

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:00pm
  34. Faith and values that have no logical substance. Keep your faith and values in private and let the public thrive with diversity. Closed minds belong behind closed doors.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:00pm
  35. Love is love fuck what everyone else says about gay being wrong.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:00pm
  36. This is such a waist of tax payer money

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:02pm
  37. SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, IDIOTS.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:03pm
  38. no honey, it is all about discrimination !!! and pushing your faith on other people…..and all that is wrong !!! we all deserve the same rights

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:05pm
  39. That thinking belongs in church not in our laws.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:07pm
  40. It just blows my mind how these people claim religion and values when talking about gay marriage, but go around being sinners the rest of the time

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:09pm
  41. how much do they understand that DOMA was discounted in the US Supreme Court? Their efforts will be discounted, too

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:10pm
  42. When will these “dinosaurs” finally all die off?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:11pm
  43. Call it faith and call it values…. You cant hide discrimination! Any faith based value that discriminates is just plain wrong and hateful. Besides, religion has no place in government. I guess in Indiana, they missed the separation of church and state part of the US Constitution. It’s the good ol boys club in Hoosierland. Embarrassed to live here!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:12pm
  44. church separate from state… that is all

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:12pm
  45. if it is about Faith and Values take it to your church and not into the legislative chamber to evoke your religious beliefs onto others who may not share discrimination like you do. it is the religious that makes me not to want to live anymore.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:15pm
  46. Faith & value? Whose, yours? Count me out!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:17pm
  47. Faith and values, my ass. It’s about hatred, intolerance and bigotry.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:19pm
  48. Welcome to Indiana- The Hate State . See you at the Klan rally after church. Mike Pence is giving the speech at both.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:23pm
  49. They Need To Get There Head Out Of There Ass ,They No How To Cover Shit Up

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:26pm
  50. Waste of time and money!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:27pm
  51. Wasting time and money on a dead issue.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:31pm
  52. separation of church and state!!!!!! get religion and the religious the fuck out!!!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:32pm
  53. Silly old fuddie duddies, tricks are for kids!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:37pm
  54. Just give it up already…it’s unconstitutional

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:46pm
  55. Nice faces

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:52pm
  56. Saying your values trump someone else’s values without even knowing them is just plain warped as I see it. That’s not an attribute I would call admirable.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:58pm
  57. Say it with me…separation of church and state. I know…a lot of syllables in some of those words but your faith should have no bearing on law.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 8:59pm
  58. Things in Indiana need to change. Did Ryan White teach us nothing?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:01pm
  59. fairy tales and lies is what they believe

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:02pm
  60. Not my faith. Not my values. Why should their values trump mine?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:03pm
  61. “We’re old, white, reactionary bigots . . . we have values to protect.”

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:04pm
  62. religious faith does not belong in government

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:04pm
  63. They must not have faith in whatever it is they’re supposedly have faith on because of hate. In this case, it is clear that they value hate more than anything else.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:09pm
  64. then go to church and preach your crap there.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:11pm
  65. It’s about bullshit. Indiana lives in 1850 thanks to the GOP.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:16pm
  66. Well maybe we to ban their religious rights

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:21pm
  67. Separation of church and state isn’t just a slogan, old dudes.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:24pm
  68. I want a President to come along and strip religion from this country. Remove it from money, from courtrooms, from laws, charge churches and religious entities steep taxes.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:25pm
  69. *facepalm*

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:31pm
  70. Remember that thing that says no church and state?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:34pm
  71. They are booming their state to stagnation and economic disparity.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:35pm
  72. Seperation of church and state, OBVIOUSELY DUH!!!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:37pm
  73. The poor things. They just can’t fathom the fact that they’re going to lose. It’s beyond their comprehension abilities.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:44pm
  74. Unconstitutional. Or do only hard core religious conservatives love there

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:49pm
  75. Bunch of privileged old white men.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:51pm
  76. I think we should ban all the churches.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:51pm
  77. “Faith and values.” In other words, they are attempting to legislate religion. Anyone aggrieved could sue in federal court on Establishment Clause grounds.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 9:58pm
  78. Since when did faith and values aka religion get rights!?! Since when did the constitution say religion has more rights then human beings?!? It doesn’t get your faith and values out of my rights!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 10:00pm
  79. Discrimination covered in bullshit.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 10:07pm
  80. It’s about Bigotry and control, it’s about Fear, Supression, it’s about Division, and Homophobia, it’s about these Ignorant Turds with their heads tight up their Own asses!

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 10:08pm
  81. Is about the Fake Faith and the GOP Bible.

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 10:15pm
  82. Faith and values should not be an excuse to discriminate. Jesus didn’t discriminate

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 10:19pm
  83. Didn’t Jethro Tull have a song one time “Let’s go living in the past”?

    Posted on Saturday, February 8, 2014 at 10:30pm
  84. Whose faith? Whose values? Indiana, put equality first.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:12am
  85. What about LGBT faith and values? Did those just disappear? Oh wait. They’re saying LGBT faith and values are less important, essentially. What a surprise. If that’s not discrimination then I have no idea what is.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:13am
  86. We all live in a Yellow Submarine….up periscope!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:13am
  87. Nazi faith and values!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:13am
  88. bunch of old white people longing for the 1850′s.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:13am
  89. it shouldn’t be about faith or values since there are a variety of faiths and values in our nation.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:14am
  90. Congrats, you’ve just made the case against you.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:14am
  91. Just because they say it’s not about discrimination, doesn’t mean it’s the truth…

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:14am
  92. ‘Libertarians as a whole have got to get on board with anything that promotes life, liberty and property. If we are about live and let live it has to be in all things’ – Kerry D. McKennon

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:15am
  93. If your faith and values are telling you to empower bigotry, hate and xenophobia then I think you indiana people need a lesson in history about oppression and another about the constitution of your own nation.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:15am
  94. This is not a theocracy, religion has nothing to do with law. The Constitution of The United States protects us from having any one religion imposed on us.That’s the core of the issue.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:17am
  95. This is why we absolutely need the separation of church and state.

    Replied on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 12:49pm
  96. Then it shouldn’t be a law! Separation of church and state!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:17am
  97. As an outsider from another country this is just weird. Do Americans realise the rest of the world views what happens in your religious & conservative centres as very strange & very disturbing in the same way the rise of Nazi Germany was.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:18am
  98. Concept is lacking in these ignorant self righteous men. Who, made then superior ?? I wish them a life full of change and a honest dose of reality. I’m just dumbfound that these people who have lots of power are out of touch with people and lack understnsding. I hope they realize that times are changing and equality is for all!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:18am
  99. protecting the rights of bigots hiding behind false religion is not constitutional or a value. The bill of right is there to protect singled out minorities from these types of actions. If they want to legislate religious faith, they need to move to Iran.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:18am
  100. All clueless old white men
    Dumbasses

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:18am
  101. and sadly----the women politicians are voting for it

    Replied on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:26am
  102. It shouldn’t be about faith at all. I believe that is exactly why there is a law that calls for separation of Church and State. The Church has no place in making or passing this law!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:20am
  103. Businesses will not survive if they pick and choose their customers based on their sexuality. What makes those people so pure and correct to judge others? They have decided they do not want to provide any service to LGBTQ based upon faith and values. If the outdated word of the god or person they worship dictates the way they live, and if their so-called values are narrow minded- then they should only serve the twisted minded religious fundamentalists and eventually fail in their business. Being hateful is sinful, it grows the demon of self-righteousness in their hearts.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:22am
  104. I’m calling total BS on that!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:23am
  105. They need to change the state motto to “Indiana: ignorant and behind the times, and proud of it. “

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:23am
  106. Even at the expense of the faith and values of others? Who are they to decide that their desires are above any other human being’s?

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:24am
  107. This is not a theocracy, read democracy

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:24am
  108. then it shouldn’t be voted on….

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:24am
  109. Let me guess these guys think that Jesus was white like they are as well? -me a gay FtM Christian ( and don’t dare lump me in with those “christians”)

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:25am
  110. Actually they can ALL go to hell. THAT’s my belief. So, what are they gonna say about that?

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:25am
  111. Point in case separation between church and state

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:26am
  112. we need to be equal n have all rights like a normal couple have

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:29am
  113. I’ll tell the Indiana Family Institute what to blow…

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:30am
  114. Spoken like a preacher at a revivalist rally! Bring on the HOLIER THEN THOU STATE OF INDIANA! THEOCRACY IS ALIVE AND WELL, THERE, AS IN IRAN! Who need Sharia law when you got Indiana law!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:30am
  115. Who’s faith, who’s values? My values are that all people are equal and shall be treated that way. My faith is that religious people love all, no matter what.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:31am
  116. It should never pass.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:36am
  117. They’re fighting for the right to be discriminating bigots…I wonder how far I’d get in this world if I ran a business and told these “christians” that they couldn’t shop at my store because of their views. It would be world war 3. They’re so hypocritical.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:36am
  118. The same people who would’ve been shouting “burn the witch” in old Salem. People who stand for a real God should have more sense than this. They really should be ashamed of themselves.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:40am
  119. These people are assholes who hide behind a Bible they don’t seem to even understand.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:43am
  120. Right…… Ever hear of religious freedom? Keep YOUR religion out of my home, the USA government and out of OUR laws. Kay

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:45am
  121. These people making these stupid laws have no values and they probably don’t know what they are and yes it is about discrimination because that is what they doing by denying the LGBTQ people the right to get married.So I think they that they should leave the bible at church and just give equal rights to everyone because it their right to be treated equal and I wish the LGBTQ people all the best no matter who you are or where you come from everyone of you desserts equal rights and I will continue to support all of you

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:45am
  122. Tolerance for all.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:46am
  123. This is bull. We are supposed to be protected against hate, discrimination, and religion is not suppose to be involved in the business of the state.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:49am
  124. Faith? Not mine! Values? The values of bigotry and hatred!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:50am
  125. They’re full of shiit

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 4:50am
  126. So these jerks can meet and waste taxpayer’s money to fight something that they are going to eventually lose and not focus in more important matters that are affecting Americans, e.g. unemployment, people losing their homes, jobs, etc. I think they are not in touch with the real problems.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 5:03am
  127. stick your faith and values up your arse

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 5:07am
  128. What ever happened to separation of church and state?

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 5:07am
  129. I have no faith in your values.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 5:16am
  130. I am also a gay Christian and there are more of us than ppl realize. We do not agree that these values are how God would want it. Love is for all. And all love is just as important. There needs to be a break through in churches.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 5:34am
  131. No. It’s about discrimination. Discrimination because ov your “values” is still discrimination.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 5:46am
  132. Religion and Goverment are seperate! Religious Beliefs do not have a say or voice in Law and goverment! Stop being children and listen to your own laws!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 5:49am
  133. thats funny they said that about blacks and whites dating at one time too

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 5:49am
  134. What a shame!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 6:00am
  135. Hatred has no limits.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 6:19am
  136. I wonder how much trouble a business owner would get in if they refused service because the customer was a Christian, and was against the business owners religion.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 6:22am
  137. They’re no better than Putin and the Russians

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 6:35am
  138. Faith and values…yet they continue to rob people through taxes and do stupid crap. Faith and values my ass….

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 6:36am
  139. They say if gays marry it will compromise their faith and values ,so murderers and rapists and cheaters don’t compromise your values but gay marriage does?! I have faith and values but they are ment for my life they are not compromised because other people do things I don’t like, nobody can compromise you beliefs but you.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 6:49am
  140. Why do these butt holes think that gay people have no values? They’re the ones in politics!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 7:25am
  141. Is Discrimination a type of value for them?

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 8:30am
  142. Dear friends! I am an activist in Russia. Help me find a resident of St. Louis! In order to convey greetings twin town in Russia! thank you in advance!

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 9:31am
  143. Whose values?

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 9:55am
  144. Let’s hope Christians waste all their money on trying to stop us from getting married. It obviously isn’t working so why not let the stupid brainwashed morons blow their doe on hate?

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 9:57am
  145. It’s discrimination. Anything else is an attempt to justify.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 10:38am
  146. get out of the way of progress Indiana

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 10:39am
  147. How ironic that they themselves really know nothing about faith and/or values.

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 10:57am
  148. Isn’t freedom the most important value?

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 11:08am
  149. Civil rights justice is NOT about religion! Tax the hell out of the churches who continue to get involved and lobby in politics

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 11:22am
  150. Total BS

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 11:22am
  151. DOMA IS Dead you close minded Dick heads

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 11:25am
  152. correct don’t take away our rights we have faith and values…bigots..

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 11:49am
  153. John 2:13-16

    Posted on Monday, February 10, 2014 at 12:53pm