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Calif. conversion therapy ban put on hold pending Supreme Court review

Monday, February 3, 2014

SAN FRANCISCO — California’s ban on conversion therapy for minors, the controversial practice that aims to turn gay youths straight, will remain on hold while opponents of the ban ask the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn it.

The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco on Monday granted opponents’ request for a stay while they seek a Supreme Court review.

The landmark legislation (SB 1172), passed in 2012, prohibits licensed counselors from offering treatment geared toward changing the sexual orientation of minors, a practice also referred to as reparative therapy.

The statute was challenged by therapists who argued that the law violated their right to freedom of speech.

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On Aug. 29, 2013, a panel of the Ninth Circuit held that the law was a permissible regulation of medical treatment to protect public health and safety, and did not violate the free speech rights of therapists.

Last week, the appeals court refused to reconsider its August 2013 ruling .

Liberty Counsel, a Christian legal aid group that challenged the law, said it would ask the U.S. Supreme Court to take the case.

New Jersey enacted a similar law in 2013. A federal district court upheld New Jersey’s law on November 8, 2013, and that law is currently the subject of an appeal before the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit.

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  1. WTF?

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:49am
  2. how can torturing children be anything other than evil?!

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:50am
  3. Because ignorant people see it as "curing an issue", much like shock treatment used on special needs kids or schizophrenics.

    Replied on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 3:55pm
  4. HELL No Fuck that Left Wing Bullshit

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:50am
  5. Fuck right wing homophobes, accomplices of charlatans nazi torturers who belong in jail

    Replied on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:55am
  6. oh ffs! This should be illegal everywhere! Every province, every state, every country. Period. It’s doesn’t work. It’s torture.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:52am
  7. And people say Florida can never get anything done.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:53am
  8. WTF? don’t this idiots have anithing to do..i guess you can’t fix STUPID, i hope they never succeed

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:54am
  9. Will people ever learn that their child doesn’t have a “curable disease”, and that forcing kids to undergo “therapy” will actually screw them up mentally? If you love your child at all, then a good parent should be able to realize the harm that this does. Accept your child for who they are, not who/what you think/want them to be.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:54am
  10. I guess the parents think their gay kids are...*Puts on Sunglasses* Bad Company.

    Replied on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:22pm
  11. I am so sorry

    Replied on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:22pm
  12. I know I shouldn't be, but LMAO. It's kind of funny, yet not funny at the same time.

    Replied on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 1:11pm
  13. You cant conversion from gay to straight. Isn’t this shock therapy on genitals.???? :(

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:55am
  14. the conservative religious right, causing death and destruction for centuries.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:56am
  15. Legislating against conversion therapy is the wrong approach.

    Just get the national licensing and certifying boards to prohibit it on pain of losing credentials.

    Then get insurance companies to refuse to finance therapy at any facility with unlicensed professional staffers.

    And then get the states to withholding licenses to uncredentialed facilities.

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all if SCOTUS struck down all the anti-conversion therapy laws as violating freedom of speech and the right to privacy over doctor-patient matters.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:58am
  16. Uhm. It’s not about free speech. It’s about MALPRACTICE.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:58am
  17. You can not cure a non-existent disease, therefore any purported cure is fraudulent , & isn’t selling something with deception a crime ? These people are religious zealots not qualified doctors or Shrinks .

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:01am
  18. These are the places that need to be closed down, not abortion clinics and Planned Parenthood offices.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:03am
  19. This so stupid. Does Congress or the Senate really just sit there wondering whether it is bad to impose psychiatric help on kids who do not even fully understand sexuality.I want to ask people what they fear from gay people. They are not performing the opposite of this practice on youth. Really, if we cannot get societal values right, how are we going to solve other actually pressing matters.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:03am
  20. Banning conversion therapy for minors…violates their free speech?! More like their freedom to lie and distort the truth!!

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:05am
  21. Listen. This is God awful! But! We are winning an uphill fight. I pray that the odds will be in our favor.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:06am
  22. I come from a family where they never talk about my being gay other than to lament how sad it is I’m not straight, or how I got this way, or how sinful gay people are and what they do is sinful…. There is no support or humanity. My parents are dead and I feel relieved they are gone from my life. When I think what bullets I dodged growing up when they could have tormented me more with priests or pseudo-shrinks with cures. I think I survived on pure anger and hostility, which is terrible in and of itself. But I’m 54 and living to tell about it. I wish I could find some comfort and relief. Being gay is hard enough; having a family who thrives on shame and remorse is worse.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:13am
  23. as someone who has been to one of these camps, i hope the people trying to reopen them/work them die a most painful death and are shown no mercy. Because i sure as hell didn’t get any

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:18am
  24. I know a lot of ex-straights who have come out Gay and are much happier now. Wonder if they ex-straight therapy?

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:29am
  25. PIGS.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:29am
  26. I hope this cost these Christian groups a ton of money….and they lose.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 6:32am
  27. Why do stays always come down on the wrong side of morality? When bans on marriage are ruled unconstitutional, ruled harmful to gay couples and to children – the rulings are appealed and harm is continued to be done even though no harm is done by allowing couples to marry.

    Here we have a ban on harming children, and the stay that is imposed allows evil people to continue to do harm until the appeals are all settled?

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 7:00am
  28. Stop torturing people and animals ..

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 7:01am
  29. Seriously? How …….. I simply have no words.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 7:27am
  30. How about we just shoot any “therapist” who does this to kids?

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 9:23am
  31. Lord, deliver us from the fundamentalist filth, the evangelical effluvia that corrupts our nation and our society.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 10:57am
  32. “free speech? ” That argument isn’t going to work this time, either. How come they keep clinging to something that doesn’t work? That is the clinical definition of insanity in practice. lols.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 11:04am
  33. i will continue to eat shrimp and crab, I will wear clothes made of “impure fabric”, and i will continue to be gay! alleluia!

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 11:08am
  34. In 100 years, if we don’t destroy ourselves and the planet first, people will look back on these times as the “second dark ages”

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 11:29am
  35. think we should herd up all these conversionists and convert them from fucking idiots to sane individuals yes i think so yes yes

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 11:57am
  36. conversion therapy can suck my fake dick! >:(

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:17pm
  37. All the study needs to do is look at the percentage of gays who tried this therapy, later committed suicide or attempted. Thankfully, I survived.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:24pm
  38. What the fuck is this shit

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:31pm
  39. Good for you Don it not like going to rehab for alcohol or drugs. So if your straight is there rehab to become gay

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:32pm
  40. Why do we pander to religious wackjobs in this country? We need to start saying “no” to them

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:45pm
  41. No such thing as ex gay!! God made all. He doesn’t make mistakes!!

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:53pm
  42. I totally agree with Simone Simone on this. I’m tired of the diplomacy to not offend the most offensive and bigoted bunch of asses. The religious is neither religious nor right.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:55pm
  43. I know of no gay people who are interested in something this destructive. Total hoax.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 12:56pm
  44. Are the so called therapists getting enough body bags for all the kids & young adults they cause to hate themselves so bad that suicide is how they deal with the vilest form of psychology I’ve ever heard of.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 1:22pm
  45. I am outraged and do not take this lightly….to tamper with the minds of our gay youth and saying being different is bad….what is that teaching them…we need to promote tolerance, love and acceptance and celebrate diversity…..how DARE you tamper with perfection!

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 2:02pm
  46. Ex Gay = IMPOSSIBLE

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 2:11pm
  47. Hopefully Obama will get to appoint a few new Supreme Court justices before this case comes to them. One of the many reasons why the Senate needs to keep its Democratic majority in November!

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 2:51pm
  48. the United States of America = Heterosexuality Only…WELCOME TO AMERICA…the Land of Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness only if you belong to the Right Wing Christian Republican Party…WELCOME TO AMERICA…

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 2:54pm
  49. You cant shock therapy someone gay to straight.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:00pm
  50. such BS. It’s harmful and doesn’t work. It’s torture. It should be illegal everywhere.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:06pm
  51. They should call it what it really is, mind rape.

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:10pm
  52. stupid

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:12pm
  53. Conversion therapy not only doesn’t work, it is barbaric!

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 5:27pm
  54. The only conversion therapy that worked on me years ago was me converting myself from thinking religion was real and something I should pay attention to or be involved in..or not be involved in it in any way due to its horrible unrealistic views on reality and real world life…yup worked on me. Im now a proud athiest!! Yeay :-))

    Posted on Tuesday, February 4, 2014 at 8:07pm