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Utah lawmaker introduces bill to define students’ gender for restroom use

Friday, January 31, 2014

SALT LAKE CITY — A Utah lawmaker has introduced a bill that would require school students to use restrooms that are consistent with the gender defined on their birth certificate.

restroomsState Rep. Mike Kennedy (R-Alpine, Utah), told the Provo Daily Herald that he introduced the legislation in response to a law passed in California that allows transgender students to choose the restroom of the gender in which they identify, as well as participate on school sports team according to their gender identity.

Kennedy says the bill would define gender under state code and not take into account “an individual’s own opinion on their gender.”

According to the bill, the student’s gender is either designated on their birth certificate or they will have to provide a signed document specifying their gender from a physician who performed a “physical examination of the individual’s genitalia.”

The future of Kennedy’s bill remains uncertain, however.

On Tuesday, Utah’s legislative leaders said the state’s attorney general’s office had suggested to the legislature that it may want to hold off on debating any legislation that deals with LGBT rights or marriage definitions as the debates may harm the state’s case in the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals dealing with Utah’s definition of marriage.

Kennedy said he hasn’t heard that this bill would be included in that moratorium but does see that it could be wrapped up into that category.

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  1. Gender isn’t on the birth certificate, sex is. And he’s an idiot.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:15pm
  2. Is gender not sex....

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:22am
  3. Nope. Gender is between the ears and how a person interacts with the society around them. Sex is between the legs and the genes you're born with.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:23am
  4. which can be edited ^

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:54pm
  5. hum stupid

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:15pm
  6. Let’s solve real world problems like poverty, unemployment, etc

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:16pm
  7. Nah, we need to make sure the things that don't matter are taken care of first.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:07pm
  8. I agree. We're human regardless. There are much more pressing issues we face that make the cost of living exceedingly impossible.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:16pm
  9. Degressive John? Ignoring human concerns is important.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:55pm
  10. I can’t imagine who would have more more insight and wisdom than the Utah legislature…

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:17pm
  11. Well looks like I’m pissing in the water fountain

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:18pm
  12. Does he have the same signs in his home?

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:19pm
  13. Will never pass. It would require all students to violate their right to privacy, by submitting their birth certificates to the school.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:20pm
  14. Have Utah get hold of the Maine State Supreme Court!..THEY show how it’s done! Shame on Utah…once again!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:20pm
  15. For now I think transgenders should have their own bathroom. This will avoid bullying and provide them a safe place.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:22pm
  16. How about we just kill bullies. Dexter style.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:30pm
  17. no. simply no. i was forced to use a "sick room" bathroom at my work. i can't even begin to tell you how awesome that made me feel! and top it off with the individuals at the front desk inquiring why i was being forced to use it made it even better. segregation is not the answer. we've been down that road before.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:34pm
  18. Should a person really be allowed to simply say “I’m female” if they are born male? Let’s be real, that would be abused, giving males the opportunity to be in the female’s restroom just because they want to be. I think there should be documentation from a mental health professional before someone can just pick a gender/sex. This is a little out of control.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:23pm
  19. it never fucking fails. leave your ignorance and slippery slope behind--do your research. transgender individuals have to receive a formal diagnosis which follow WPATH standards of care. we have ample documentation. i correct you because IGNORANCE, not transgender rights, is out of control.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:28pm
  20. What's stopping a man from going to the girls bathroom right now? Is there a real law against that? Did you know that transgender men are a lot of times impossible to tell the difference just from looking at them? They are using your bathrooms right now. Do they pick on you? Transgender aren't "Transvestites" or "Sexual Predators".. They are people, people born with a brain opposite of their physical characteristics. Not everyone is the same. It's not a cookie cutter birth that the world makes it out to be.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:33pm
  21. It isn't my place to research it. The real failure is on the part of the writer of the article in not explaining it fully.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:34pm
  22. April, you missed my point entirely. What is to stop a straight, non-transgendered male, from claiming to be "female" to gain permissible entry to the girl's restroom?

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:34pm
  23. And to further my point, do you think that an effeminate male or transgender woman (for all intents and purposes of this argument; a male who is incredibly uncomfortable in their body) is comfortable in a bathroom full of testosterone? They already get picked on because maybe they have painted nails, or have wiggle in their butts, or maybe just kind of appear to be lady like, or as a lot of close minded people would say "Flaming". No. They don't. They aren't. They are trapped in a world where they are picked on, ridiculed and even brutally murdered because of the stereotypes that surround us. We're not welcome in the mens bathroom. We're often times not welcomed into the womens bathroom either. A rock and a hard place. Do you know that most teenage suicides are because they don't feel like they are accepted, loved or wanted? That's 41% of the transgender population that kill themselves. I'm not trying to attack your statement or you as a person, I hope that's clear. I am just speaking out on behalf of the people that I know, people that want to be normal, but society doesn't want anything to do with us, because we're "broken". We aren't broken, we live, we sleep, we cook, we run, we play, we have jobs, we love and we want to be loved. That's all. We just want to be normal.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:41pm
  24. April, I WAS one of those boys. That isn't what this is about. All I am saying is that I can see where the thought process was on this bill, however misguided. Hell, the guy that wrote it might not know about "WPATH" or whatever it is either. Too many people assume that everyone knows everything they do.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:42pm
  25. David, that's right, because you won't hear a male squeal when a woman comes in, but a man would be arrested for going into the women's room. That's the world we live in.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:44pm
  26. It might not be your job to research it. But it is theirs. Lawmakers have a responsibility to make informed decisions about our society. Something they obviously don't do.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:44pm
  27. If you're going to chime in with your fucking ignorant as hell 2 cents worth of bullshit, then YES, dumbass, the onus is on you to do the fucking 5 minutes of google research. The unmitigated gall of some people is fucking astounding. Bunch of transphobic assholes.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:01pm
  28. Go tap your toe somewhere else Orean and not around trans kids.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:12pm
  29. Why is it always that cis people are saying cis people will abuse a trans right so trans people couldn't be allowed to have rights. Why somebody else's shitty behavior should be the reason we can't have our rights. Punish the people who would abuse that right (which I doubt would happen) and not the ones who actually fucking need that right.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:48pm
  30. no, nobody is expected to spoon feed you information. why would WPATH be mentioned in this article? this is about restroom preference for christ sake! if you're going to form an opinion, it is YOUR job to make sure said opinion is formed using a factual basis. this requires research if you simply are unsure. you obviously chose to skip that step and displayed astounding ignorance as a consequence. that is on you, sir, not the writer. do not pass your intellectual laziness off onto somebody else's shoulders.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:13pm
  31. you sir are an abomination... none of us transgender individuals want to just change on a whim all of us are screened and assessed by qualified medical doctors and as far as i am concerned the only proof needed is the assessment ie, letter from a doctor... more of us are assaulted in toilets than anyone else... btw if its wrong for us to use the correct facility we present it is wrong for same sex people to share bathrooms as well !!

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 1:38am
  32. It actually is your job to research it. You clearly have a computer and internet access. The information is literally seconds away. Who do you think you are that you can post comments like these with nothing to back it up?

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:56pm
  33. You can't just do that... -_- you have to have permission from a therapist... and go through several therapies to even be considered trans

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 7:43pm
  34. Orean you just sound like an ignorant person... don't even try acting like you're not...

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 7:46pm
  35. Being Utah, I’m absolutely shocked that they’re being so blatantly insensitive to the needs of transgendered students. No really. Look at my face. I’m totally, extremely shocked.

    Dumbasses *sigh*

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:23pm
  36. I’ve decided you’re a neuter, Mr. Lawmaker. NO bathroom for you. Soil your clothes.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:24pm
  37. the bill specifically defines gender as a phenotype. Google phenotype, and tell me what you think about that.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:25pm
  38. i wonder if they are conflating gender and sex. it's a common misconception which needs corrected.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:33pm
  39. It's Utah; where you can't drink alcohol unless you join a privet club,or pay an extra fee at any hotel. Plus it is a State that is run by a "Church" ; which proves the Founding Fathers knew what they were doing when calling for the separation of the State and the Church.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 4:31am
  40. I thought they wanted ‘smaller’ government…

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:27pm
  41. ^^Mental health professional? Really? Gender is not a mental illness!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:29pm
  42. Being transgender is still defined in the DSM as being a "disorder." Unfortunate, but also factual. If they are interested in physically changing their sex, they do need to be examined by a mental health professional.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:46pm
  43. No one should be required to see a shrink to use a toilet.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 7:15pm
  44. Not all transgender people have sex changes.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 7:16pm
  45. wrong, sam. it is now titled "gender dysphoria." it is explicitly stated gender dysphoria is not a mental illness in and of itself. it can influence mental illness such as clinical depression.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:12pm
  46. How STUPID is he????

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:29pm
  47. Oh for fucks sake!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:32pm
  48. I feel sorry for anyone with any human compassion who is living in the state of Utah. It’s obvious that tolerance and logic are not as common in Utah’s representatives as it should be.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:35pm
  49. WTF is with the Republican’s obsession with what is between someone’s legs?? Aren’t their more important things to deal with??

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:37pm
  50. When someone is born, the only gender identity they have is what is physical; they can’t tell anyone anything about themselves because they don’t know yet, and lack any skills at articulation…they have yet to experience anything to have learned from to gather information about themselves. A birth certificate is as much indicative of gender, as it is a date of death. The baby doesn’t know that it will die one day, much less it’s own gender. We experience life thru our own senses, and it’s difficult to communicate with people who are so quick in proclaiming to know what’s “wrong” with people because they assume everyone should be like them. Thru my own empathy and compassion, it’s hard to realize that not everyone has a heart, not everyone has the ability to put themselves in someone else’s shoes without judgement based on bias and dogma. There should be a new religion, just being HUMAN.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:39pm
  51. where is the unisex?

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:42pm
  52. Booo… BAD mormon… BAD!!!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:43pm
  53. IDIOT!!!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:51pm
  54. Someone needs to be educated about the difference between gender and sex.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:52pm
  55. Utah, stop being arseholes to people. It’s really not very Christian you know.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:57pm
  56. Make all bathrooms and group shower facilities unisex and grow up. Realize that it doesn’t fucking matter if some asshole sees your tiny peepee. The doc saw it when you were born.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:05pm
  57. Utah just isn’t doing anything positive in the news right now. *sigh* I am so ashamed of my state most of the time.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:06pm
  58. Isn’t it telling how many “straight” men in suits who happen to be christian, usually, are so intent; obsessed really, with having young, school-age transgirls in the mens room with them with their pants pulled down.

    Imo, individuals like that need to to have the ever-lovin shit kicked out of them.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:08pm
  59. I’m glad things are going so well in Utah that this lawmaker can waste time on crap. Good going, Utah!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:15pm
  60. Anything to spew hate..expect nothing less from Utah

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:23pm
  61. Utah you’re a mess! Just sayin’….

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:32pm
  62. What a non-surprise. More douchebaggery in Utard.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:32pm
  63. Why are we going backwards on this and other issues??? Why are we allowing white, male, close minded politicians to make these kinds of decisions??? Why do we allow politician’s religious beliefs and exclusions enter a discussion on equality and human rights???

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:33pm
  64. Utah isn’t any better than Texas I guess.. Sigh..

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:41pm
  65. Orean Keels Jr. The reason that you won’t have non-trans males getting away with walking in female locker rooms is that no one wants to be trans. Also, trans people usually have a therapist verifying that they are trans. Most schools would verify a student’s trans identity before making accommodations.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:41pm
  66. Honestly in school I used the nurses office restroom it was way cleaner and it was unisex.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:44pm
  67. “Let’s solve real world problems like poverty, unemployment, etc” um these are real world problems. Human rights need to come first =^.^=

    Also, why are so many cishet people so obsessed with trans* people’s genitals? It’s a little pervasive.

    Orean Keels Jr, you are aware that transgender people aren’t just simply stating that they are a gender not aligned with the sex they were assigned at birth just so they can “use the other gender’s bathroom”, right? Being trans and wanting to use the restroom you feel comfortable using doesn’t mean that person is a sexual predator or has ulterior motives. That’s like saying gay/lesbian people are child molesters. It’s transphobia at its finest and you should probably fix that. Work on your character =^.^= And while we’re at it, ot everyone has insurance/money to cover the expenses of counseling which isn’t necessary pending on which state you live in. Presenting personal documents for superfluous reasons (like needing to use a fucking bathroom) is an invasion of privacy. People like you are the exact reason why our rights are still being ignored.

    And you don’t pick a gender u piece of trash.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:48pm
  68. That’s pretty regressive …gender neutral simple…

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:54pm
  69. fuck a gender

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:58pm
  70. one time i noticed the shoes in the stall next to me were to big to be woman shoes so i left and washed my hands and the young gentleman came out of the stall

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:59pm
  71. i looked at him and told him one of us are in the wrong bathroom (as i was laughing ) and i didn’t think it was me he started to laugh too.. his wife walking into the bathroom looked puzzled at her husband he said don’t all lmao

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:01pm
  72. the guy want gay or Trans i don’t see things like that, it was a man that thought he was in the mans bathroom i Suisse he was in a hurry

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:03pm
  73. This bill is also dealing with the elementary schools as well. Transgender doesn’t mean gay too. I personally would not be ok with a boy who is trans to a girl using the restroom with my daughter or vice versa. I think instead they should have a unisex bathroom for trans kids to use. While the trans child’s comfort needs to be addressed so do the non trans students.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:09pm
  74. No offense but if you have that much of a problem with someone whos trans thats in another stall in a girls bathroom thats away from you then that kinda screams homophobic .-. im js..

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:37am
  75. I'm not homophobic- I'm bisexual. I'm talking about in elementary school bathrooms not adult bathrooms. Try reading the comment posted. In adult bathrooms I could care less. Children's bathrooms should not have boys using girls or girls using boys bathrooms. If a child is transgender they should not be in either- they should use a private bathroom. A biologically girl child who is trans would be ten using a boys bathroom- which have open urinals and she would be exposed to genitalia.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:34am
  76. Oh dear god.... exposed to the human body, in school, say it isn't so. Because elementary school kids have no idea that boys/girls have different parts? I am honestly trying to understand the concern but for the life of me, unless you're thinking of criminal activity, i don't see the problem... And if that is what you're thinking those kids have a bigger problem than unisex bathrooms.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:41pm
  77. Yes, let's create a unisex bathroom for certain children. Because that certainly won't get them singled out as different. Don't you think kids get bullied enough in school? Especially students who are viewed as "different" by others? It seems to me that you're more afraid of having to answer any questions your child might come home with than anything else. Sounds like a personal problem, not the problem of a trans student.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:44pm
  78. you realize that's basically letting EVERYONE know they're trans, right? making them use a separate bathroom is indirectly exposing private information. not all trans children want to openly share the fact they're trans. some want to be discreet--they should have that right.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:08pm
  79. Not gonna fly. Try putting taxpayers’ money towards something legitimate.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:22pm
  80. making all new sex laws for certain people is just weird ….if teens not allowed to have sex cuz not age account abilty how can they tell that they gay or lesbian at that age

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:25pm
  81. Sexuality is innate to human nature. Where in the world did you hear that teens aren't allowed to have sex? Educate yourself.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:52am
  82. Also, by use of that logic, how do you know you aren't sexually attracted to porcupines if you've never had sex with one before?

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:53am
  83. they. The laws very from. State to. State but having sex. With teen. Is rape having sex with a minor. What country you from.but in usa its against the law but that was my point too young to have to have sex so to young to know sexuality

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 4:03am
  84. So transgendered do not count?

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:45pm
  85. Utah, no surprise.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:47pm
  86. seriously, boys use the urinals and girls in the t.bowl for peeing. Instead of Men and Women its that B and G…?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 12:03am
  87. Bigoted its time to organize protest and occupy homophobic hate!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 1:19am
  88. Only a real ass would do something like this… oh wait, he is.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 1:39am
  89. What the fuck is up with Utah? They’re making the KKK look rational.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 1:56am
  90. Keep in mind that we are talking about the ultimate violation of the 4th Amendment right to privacy. A transsexual MtF looks like a girl, acts like a girl, talks like a girl. Yet she is forced to submit to an examination of her private parts by a strange male doctor she doesn’t know. Then, when her teeny weeny peeny is verified, she is forced to use the boys bathroom where she will be physically assaulted and sexualy assaulted. The attacks are VIOLENT. They happen DAILY. Not just in the bathroom, but in the gym, the playground, and the route to and from school. It’s not ONE bully, it’s most of the boys in the school! The unisex bathroom ALSO makes her a target.
    Odds are that without support, she will be dead, murdered, suicide, or “accident” before her 25th birthday. What if she were your child, grandchild, or a child from your church? Would you want a target tattooed to her forhead?
    Why does God make transgender children? Maybe because they teach his children what true unconditional love is really about!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 1:57am
  91. !WORD!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 2:40am
  92. This legislation is unnecessary and insensitive to transgendered folks. Shame on you!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 2:56am
  93. LEAVE THE KIDS ALONE, THEY WILL “STRAIGHTEN’ IT OUT AMONG THEMSELVES AS ONLY KIDS CAN. (Or would if adults would stay out of their business.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONFO8QPleqE

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:00am
  94. Pointless, bully bill

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:22am
  95. I’ll show you mine of you show me yours ..

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:31am
  96. so transgender have NOWHERE to go?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:34am
  97. I think the Nazi’s did this a few years ago.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 4:23am
  98. yeah no

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 4:58am
  99. How does this prepare them for the real world where bathrooms are becoming unisex and gender doesn’t matter? We take all these insecurities and fears and force them not only on our children but others thanks to policies like these affecting schools. The idea of gender specific bathrooms is absurd. We all want privacy, to shit without anyone else around, and it doesn’t matter what gender you are.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 5:01am
  100. Robert Anderson except that the alcohol thing isn’t true.. it was 7 years ago but not anymore. Also, SLC is not primarily LDS anymore. The hard core church goers are in Utah County, just south of salt lake. And salt lake is very LGB friendly.. just the political parties arent. It just comes to show that politics is was and will always be a private club.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 5:23am
  101. ???????????????????????

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 5:45am
  102. “Sorry I’m too busy imposing my beliefs on the system to actually make improvements.”

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:27am
  103. wtf

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:41am
  104. Wayne Owen – first, it is almost impossible to figure out what you are saying. Here in Facebook, you are represented by your words. If you can’t be bothered to capitalize, use punctuation, etc., most people will write you off as uneducated or just plain stupid. Second, you seem to be saying that only adults are capable of assessing their own sexuality. Two things about that: first, gender and sex are related, but are not the same; second, you are flat wrong. Trans kids are often very aware at an early age. You cannot go by your own limited experience, but much has been written on the subject. EDUCATE YOURSELF OR SHUT THE HELL UP!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:53am
  105. Consider this. A transsexuals MtF who has taken the effort to look, act, and talk like a girl will NOT want others seeing what she has between her legs. She also doesn’t want to risk the consequences of peeping into the stalls of other girls.

    Remember, she doesn’t want her penis and would have it removed if she could.

    The proposed laws would make sense if therapist’s letter were an option. This law still presumes that the only consideration should be whether the thing between her legs is an “inny” or an “outy”. What about someone like me, who had a “teeny weeny peeny” but no testes? In junior high, I had to be examined by Dr Zarlingo. His primary task was to examine my genitals. He remarked at how small I was. He also noticed unusual scars on my sack.

    It was humiliating, degrading, and seemed more like rape than a medical exam.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:56am
  106. Why the fuck can’t penises go in one room and vaginas in another? Good lord. How about we focus on bigger issues. I added this page to read shit that isn’t dumb as fuck. And people wonder why we’re treated different for being gay. Shit like this mattering. That’s why.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:11am
  107. I'll refer you to this comment from dear @Debbie Lawrence: " Keep in mind that we are talking about the ultimate violation of the 4th Amendment right to privacy. A transsexual MtF looks like a girl, acts like a girl, talks like a girl. Yet she is forced to submit to an examination of her private parts by a strange male doctor she doesn't know. Then, when her teeny weeny peeny is verified, she is forced to use the boys bathroom where she will be physically assaulted and sexualy assaulted. The attacks are VIOLENT. They happen DAILY. Not just in the bathroom, but in the gym, the playground, and the route to and from school. It's not ONE bully, it's most of the boys in the school! The unisex bathroom ALSO makes her a target. Odds are that without support, she will be dead, murdered, suicide, or "accident" before her 25th birthday. What if she were your child, grandchild, or a child from your church? Would you want a target tattooed to her forhead? Why does God make transgender children? Maybe because they teach his children what true unconditional love is really about!"

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:42pm
  108. you sound like an entitled little brat. you do realize this is the LGBT community? not just fucking gays and lesbians.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:15pm
  109. mormons aka the polygamist pedophiles are here to tell others what to do n what not to do.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 12:14pm
  110. HOW F#$KING STUPID!!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 12:24pm
  111. Another example of small government staying out of our lives…

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 1:31pm
  112. Who the heck has the time to enforce that law?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 1:41pm
  113. Does this seem like a small child throwing a fit because they didn’t get their way with….marriage equality?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:56pm
  114. …these people will do anything to discriminate, isolate, and injure trans kids…

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 4:10pm
  115. Why do these guys actively look for trouble?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 4:24pm
  116. gender ID required?

    I’ll show you mine ;)

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 4:25pm
  117. I think I used the school bathroom exactly once in all those years.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 4:49pm
  118. It’s okay Utah, I’ll still use whatever bathroom I’m closest to.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:19pm
  119. These fucking arsehole politicians, man. Wow.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 6:44pm
  120. Hopefully in the near future Trans people will be protected by laws they currently are not protected under. A simple solution would be for an optional unisex bathroom. That would cause less outrage and confusion in the long run. For now though…just let Trans people use the bathroom they identify with. I’m not scared a trans people lecherously looking under my bathroom stall….I get more trouble with small children trying to crawl into my stall while I’m using it.

    The top comment on that article really hits the nail on the head. It’s much more than a personal identity issue, it’s also a safety and health issue.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 7:08pm
  121. The real perverts here are the lawmakers obsessed with genitalia.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 7:10pm
  122. The only sign that lawmaker needs on his bathroom door is dumbass.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 7:46pm
  123. You guys are right, we need to solve world hunger and end terrorism and war before worrying about things like guys going into women’s bathrooms, and when I think of just the person who can solve those global issues, it is Utah State Representative Mike Kennedy!! Why is he wasting his time on this when he can solve all those other problems?!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 7:55pm
  124. This will get ugly with both sides very fast.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 8:45pm
  125. NO

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 9:08pm
  126. Gender identity is out of his league.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 9:09pm
  127. Omg fuck this. Im just so done with ignorant people.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 9:59pm
  128. I hear what you are saying, but we must correct their ignorance such that future discriminatory behavior is rightly seen as intentional jackassery.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:27pm
  129. today I E mailed all 75 republican representatives in the Senate of Utah I am waiting for response’s

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 9:59pm
  130. so ignorant..

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:00pm
  131. A Republican doesn’t understand gender identity. I’m shocked… shocked I tell you!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:00pm
  132. Lawmakers can hardly write good laws half the time. Now they want to tackle the ontological minefield that is the construction of one’s gender?! The fucking ego of some people is so large it staggers me.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:00pm
  133. So where do the gentlemen and ladies go?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:01pm
  134. the lawmaker didn’t introduce a bill to define a students gender for restroom use. He introduced a bill to define a students sex for restroom use.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:01pm
  135. Actually, you're incorrect. If you click the link (that's in the article), the lawmaker does in fact refer to defining "gender" not "sex" in the bill, so in essence, the article and headline are correct. http://le.utah.gov/~2014/bills/static/HB0087.html

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:10pm
  136. Thanks. My thing is though that just because it is in the bill that way doesn't mean LGBTQ Nation has to incorrectly use those words too. I feel like if an organization is truly for people of queer sexualities and non cisgendered people then they should use those words correctly. They can acknowledge the way the bill is written but also use sex and gender correctly in their article.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:21pm
  137. I cant speak for lgbtnation, but i would suspect they reported it that way to factually reflect the bill's language. i wouldnt presume to know what this lawmaker is thinking or if he purposely used gender over sex, and i dont think lgbtqnation (or any other news outlet, gay or "straight") should substitute or "correct" words in a news story.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:42pm
  138. Gender and sex mean essentially the same thing though. Just one word more technical than the other. Kind of a layman's versus not.

    Replied on Sunday, February 2, 2014 at 12:11am
  139. So basically Utah lawmaker comes up with a way to bully transexuals

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:01pm
  140. Yet another “papers please” law in a state legislature.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:07pm
  141. Oh my god are you kidding me?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:07pm
  142. Ridiculous!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:12pm
  143. I agree with this. Transgenders should have their own bathroom so that this provide a safe place for them.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:13pm
  144. But it wouldn't be safe, if a person is seen going into a separate bathroom for trans people then they would be outing themselves as trans and that is dangerous for them.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:16pm
  145. "transgenders?" oh my fucking god. ignorance.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:00pm
  146. Then come up with a solution. Kids are cruel, and transgenders will be bullied. Solve the situation and then get back to me. Find them a place where they will feel safe. It's going to take a long time for transgenders to be accepted, the same way that it's taken gays to have equal rights. It's a process that takes time. Just because people are educated, it doesn't mean that they will not be the subject of discrimination. There's a episode of Glee that depicts this polemic.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:05pm
  147. Stupid.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:14pm
  148. *facepalm*

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:16pm
  149. I am All for Equality but as a gay woman I really do Not want to share a bathroom with anyone that has a penis…

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:17pm
  150. this makes total sense because women's restrooms don't have stalls or anything. jesus christ, maybe we should send you to a separate bathroom since you can't handle it.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:56pm
  151. Barbara how would you even know if the other women in the bathroom had a penis or not? You have probably already been in bathrooms at the same time as transwomen and didn't know it so why does it bother you now?

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:40pm
  152. They are really trying to be assholes

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:19pm
  153. Barbara A Wyatt, Are you afraid the evil penis is going to attack you? I know several transgender women and they are just a female as you or I and have every right to use the bathroom where they feel comfortable!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:20pm
  154. If I need a piss I don’t care where I go as long as I make it in time

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:22pm
  155. I am a transgender college student and this upsets me. I understand they want people to feel safe in their bathrooms but where would that leave me? Unable to use the men’s room because I am not biologically male? Unable to use the girls room because I look like a man? So what do I do? Pee in a bucket in my room? Girls are not entirely comfortable with me in their bathroom and neither are men. I’m in limbo! I live on an all female floor because I am still legally female in the schools system, that’s bad enough.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:27pm
  156. we'll just piss on the floor.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:57pm
  157. That is a tough one.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:11pm
  158. I just might to make a statement

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:48pm
  159. Party of less government intrusion.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:27pm
  160. maybe he’s just afraid a girl has a bigger penis than he does

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:30pm
  161. this bill needs not go through.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:43pm
  162. Then the lawmakers should be paid according to their IQ test results. I will guarantee if that happens the state will save a bundle of money.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:48pm
  163. .-. uhm they do know Gender is what you know you are and SEX is whether you have a penis or vag .-.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 10:56pm
  164. nope. i think i’ll use the restroom which corresponds with my gender identity.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:00pm
  165. This coming from a state that believes it’s okay to have multiple wives, fucking idiots

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:06pm
  166. This is very wrong

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:12pm
  167. simple solution: let trans individuals use the restroom of their choice and mind your own damn business.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:26pm
  168. I am going to steal this from my Molecular Bio Professor, human genitalia growth and formation is a post zygotic fusion event. In fact, the growth and such are left to the unborn fetus to develop. If for some reason the fetus doesn’t produce enough hormones to make their genitals grow significantly enough one way or the other they are left as ambiguous…think somewhere stuck inbetween both…When a child is born like this, they will typically assign them a female sex and call it a day. however, there are numerous cases in which the now post operational female produces semen and not eggs and the doctors make a mistake in assigning the gender of their choice. this isn’t too rare at about 1/500 births have some sort of ambiguity in the genitals. now this relates as in middle school and high school when puberty sets in and the actual sex appears, via self exploration and masturbation, then what will happen to those that were forced to become females that actually were meant to be males do? must they continue to live their lie because a doctor made a mistake?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:48pm
  169. Fuck the fucking mormon church, fuck the state of Utah except for the people trying to get recognized for who they are.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:52pm
  170. You know, we have unisex bathrooms EVERYWHERE but schools, it seems.

    Posted on Sunday, February 2, 2014 at 12:13am