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Mass. appeals inmate’s taxpayer funded gender reassignment surgery

Friday, January 31, 2014

BOSTON — Massachusetts prison officials on Friday said they will appeal a decision that would force them to provide taxpayer-funded sex-reassignment surgery for an inmate serving a life sentence for murder.

Michelle Kosilek

Michelle Kosilek

The state Department of Correction said it will request a hearing by the full 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in the case of Michelle Kosilek.

Two weeks ago, a three-judge panel of the same court upheld a judge’s decision granting Kosilek’s request for the surgery. The rehearing would be before the full court of six justices.

The appeals court panel said receiving medically necessary treatment is a constitutional right that must be protected “even if that treatment strikes some as odd or unorthodox.” The department’s own medical experts have testified that they believe surgery is the only adequate treatment for Kosilek, who has twice tried to commit suicide.

There is no firm estimate of how much the surgery will cost, but it could be up to $50,000. Her attorney has said it would be covered by a Department of Correction contract with a medical provider and would not increase the state’s costs, but the Department of Correction has not confirmed that.

Michelle Kosilek, born Robert Kosilek, was convicted in the killing of spouse Cheryl Kosilek in 1990.

Kosilek sued, and after a lengthy legal battle, U.S. District Judge Mark Wolf ruled in 2012 that the state Department of Correction must provide the surgery.

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Prison officials argued that Kosilek had received adequate treatment for gender identity disorder, including female hormones, laser hair removal and psychotherapy. They also cited security concerns, saying they were concerned about protecting Kosilek from sexual assaults if she is allowed to complete her gender transition. She is currently housed in a male prison but hopes to be housed in a female prison after the surgery.

“While we acknowledge the legitimacy of a gender identity disorder diagnosis, DOC’s appeal is based on the lower court’s significant expansion of the standard for what constitutes adequate care under the Eighth Amendment, and on substantial safety concerns regarding Ms. Kosilek’s post-surgery needs,” the DOC said in a statement Friday.

Kosilek’s attorney, Joseph Sulman, said he does not believe there is any reason for the appeals court to hold a rehearing and disagreed with the DOC’s claim that Wolf’s decision broadened the meaning of adequate care.

“The law has been established for a long time about what adequate care means under the Eight Amendment, and in this case, Judge Wolf simply applied the facts to the law and reached his decision,” Sulman said.

State Senate Minority Leader Bruce Tarr, R-Gloucester, praised the decision to appeal the ruling.

“Providing extraordinary surgery for someone who has committed first-degree murder isn’t a wise decision for state taxpayers and certainly doesn’t serve the interests of justice in Massachusetts,” Tarr said in a statement.

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  1. Good. There are more deserving FtM and MtF persons on the outside of prison who deserve what is considered “Cosmetic” Surgery by the Insurance Industry.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 7:38pm
  2. The "Cosmetic" classification by *some* insurance companies is a discriminatory practice that should be eliminated with the "Patients Bill of Rights" section of the Affordable Care Act. In truth, the American Medical Association, and the American Psychiatric Association consider sex reassignment surgery to be medically-necessary for people diagnosed with Gender Dysphoria. While I agree that others would be more deserving and have to work harder for it, she is in prison, which complicates things. Being trans in a men's prison is being sentenced to continual rape and torture. It would accurately be described as "cruel and unusual punishment" to deprive a prisoner of medically-necessary treatment, especially if without that treatment, they would be put in a prison full of people of the opposite sex who both see her as sub-human and sick, and also would rape her constantly. She would be defenseless, having been on hormone therapy long enough to have lost the full 40% of her muscle mass that's attributed to testosterone. So no, I don't care what crime she did. It's inhumane to keep her from having the surgery. (And I should note that I'm a feminist. I HATE being perceived as "taking the side of the murderer of a woman." I think she deserves life in prison, but not a life of torture.)

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:18pm
  3. She should be transferred to MCI Framingham.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:20pm
  4. I agree. Unfortunately, the law would *require* her to get genital surgery before being transferred to a women's prison. So because of the laws surrounding the Government officially recognizing trans people as authentic in their transitioned identities is so ignorantly based around genitalia, it means that the ONLY way for this prisoner to be imprisoned without cruel and unusual punishment, would be to pay for sex reassignment surgery.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:26pm
  5. She murdered some one. Too bad for her as to what happens to her. Maybe you should think about that before you take the life of another and ripping apart a family. You dont get to cry now because suddenly you are facing the results of what you did.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:31pm
  6. We have laws against cruel and unusual punishment in this country, Daniel.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:43pm
  7. Denying you a surgery that is not needed to keep you alive is not cruel and its against prison regs for you to assault another person so if it does happen they person responsible will be punished. On top of that guards are there to prevent such things. Other then that any mental pain felt and if you do get hurt in prison its just karma if you are a murdering scumbag.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:05pm
  8. "Punishment" for someone assaulting her would probably be either adding time to their sentence and putting them right back where they were, or put in solitary for a day and then put right back where you are. You can't punish someone who has nothing, unless you resort to torture. And the guards? They'll probably rape her too. It happens so often with police officers, prison guards, anyone with authority. And still, you say the surgery is not needed. Are you trans? Do you think you know better than the American Medical Association on what's necessary for transgender people? I'm trans, and while prison is no picnic for anyone, it would be hell for me. Instead of being subjected to that torture, I would literally rush to kill myself as fast as I could.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:22pm
  9. I'm not trying to defend Michelle Kosilek, she's a scumbag. But since most cisgender people have this strange idea that a person is defined by their sex organs (Like, really? Why haven't you all figured out that it comes from the brain yet?) there are laws saying she would have to have surgery to be sent to a women's prison. Advocating for repealing that ridiculous "jail people based on sex organs" law would make a lot more sense than advocating for an appeal to the decision.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:31pm
  10. Sorry but she will not medically die if she does not have the surgery. Will she be in mental pain? Yes but I dont care. You murder some one you are sub-animal to me so your mental pain means nothing to me. If she is attack well yes those in charge ought to do something and people be punished but again I just feel its karma and have zero pity if it happens. You murdered someone in cold blood your life should have been forfeit any how.

    Replied on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 12:05am
  11. Why are tax dollars paying for this. He murdered someone.!!!!!!!!!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 7:41pm
  12. *She

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:13pm
  13. Nope you do NOT get to take honest peoples money to pay for this when you committed a crime. Even more so murder. Rot in there for all I care.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 7:43pm
  14. My taxes better not go for that, It would be different if u didn’t murder someone. I believe people have the right to be anyone that want but , u lost your right when you took someone’s life

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 7:48pm
  15. Do you believe prisoners should be allowed to be raped and tortured every day, because they murdered someone?

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:22pm
  16. I’m trans and it’s not cosmetic per American medical association but low life in prison should not get surgery!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 7:50pm
  17. Same and I agree!

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 7:53pm
  18. Let's think this through, Alanna. Imagine you were imprisoned (for any reason, whether you did it or not) and were pre-op. The law would say you are required to be sent to a men's prison because your genitals. In a men's prison, you're in general population, physically weaker than everyone, presenting as female around a bunch of sex-crazed violent offenders, and they all know you're trans. The transphobes might kill you, and everyone WILL rape you. You'd basically be guaranteed a sexual assault once every week. And that's only counting sexual assault from the inmates, and not the guards. The law says the only way you can be sent to a women's prison where you would have a lesser chance of being raped (less than 100% chance like in a men's prison) and a lesser chance of being murdered... if you have sex reassignment surgery. The law says the Federal government forbids "cruel and unusual punishment." Please re-read the 3 paragraphs above. Would you say the situation I described is somehow not cruel and unusual?

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:35pm
  19. Gender dysphoria is a treatable medical/psychological condition. Denying necessary and available treatment is cruel and unusual punishment and (supposedly) we don’t do that in this country. If this was any other medical condition and prison officials were trying to deny treatment, would we stand for it? Officials who use issues like this to pander to the haters in their communities don’t deserve to keep their jobs.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 7:53pm
  20. This is wrong. You’re in jail for a reason. Why should you be rewarded with a sex change paid by tax payers.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 7:57pm
  21. If you needed a heart transplant and were in prison. Would you say getting said heart transplant was a "reward?"

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:22pm
  22. That's a vital part required to be alive and serve her sentence in prison. A sex change is not vital.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:24pm
  23. It is widely-accepted as medically necessary. While not vital, every professional health organization in the country recognizes that this surgery is medically-necessary. Not to mention, this is far, far from the worst thing your tax dollars are going to.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:16pm
  24. Prisoners are allowed to have healthcare that improves their health (legally provided as a human right in all North American prison systems) – in this case – whether you agree with her transition or not – it will allow her to live out her sentence completely – part of the retribution she is required to serve…provide care.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:05pm
  25. I;m sorry but i think this is good….we don’t get tax payed surgeries…neither should she…and of all things…SHE KILLED SOMEONE? theres transgender people out there struggling that don’t even get THOUGHT of their surgery getting paid for them…

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:08pm
  26. Yeah this is a little edgey. On one hand i am a gay male and support every LGBQT issue. On the other hand, this bastard in prison wants the tax payers who are working hard to pay those taxes pay for something he won’t get to enjoy for very much longer. It kinda sets out a bad vibe…..murder (or just break the law in general) someone

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:12pm
  27. How can you even say this? You can't support trans people and misgender them. You're insulting ALL trans people when you do this. Why can't you just show disapproval without such tasteless, harmful speech? Misgendering her is the same as if a gay man murdered someone and I said, "I support every LGBTQ issue but that disgusting faggot want the tax payers..." You're implying that seeing trans people as authentic in their identities is dependent on how you see them as a person.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:41pm
  28. if you support "every LGBQT issue," why are you purposely misgendering the subject of the article? that obviously isn't true.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:40pm
  29. I agree with todd. I also feel this might help the case with the insurance companies covering it. People think too in the now. Too much emotion. If they actually sat down and looked at this logically then they might see the precendents it could set.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:13pm
  30. And get rewarded a sex change

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:13pm
  31. why should the penal system provide this using tax dollars? you want a ftm or mtf transition then pay for it using your insurance.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:14pm
  32. insurance doesn't cover any of it, for the most part. only certain companies offer their employers trans-related coverage (like disney). we pay taxes and deductibles only to get denied coverage for a medically necessary procedure more often than not.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:59pm
  33. And the intentional misgendering here is awful. Because this person did something bad they have to be called he? That seems like if any other trans out there gets on your nerves you will go for lowest attack possible on us. Shameful. You don’t have to agree with this person at all but if you are going to.claim to be am allie don’t fall into.that pit. It’s even worse when.tg do this, I’ve seen it plenty on so called trans support sites. Be better than that please.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:16pm
  34. ^^^ THIS

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:27pm
  35. Well the murder occurred when HE did it.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:31pm
  36. She's been a woman all her life. Why do you feel the need to combat the authenticity of trans identities?

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:42pm
  37. An ally* and fuck the full stops sorry.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:16pm
  38. I agree with this because Insurance companies won’t cover SRS for normal citizens and here they thought of giving it to an inmate? Good and honest citizens should be helped before helping criminals.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:17pm
  39. This low life doesn’t deserve this. This should be saved for people who deserve surgery. He killed a man. Let him suffer as a HE while a beautiful trans woman can get what SHE deserves.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:21pm
  40. Your statement is an insult to all trans women, regardless of your intent. May I respectfully ask you to edit it so you don't misgender her? You can show disapproval for her without making statements that imply that you only treat trans people as their self-identified gender as a courtesy. It implies that you don't see any of us as "real men/women" but that we must earn your respect to be treated the same as any other human being would be treated regardless of their crimes. If a cisgender lesbian murdered her wife, would you call the murderer "he" just because they're a murderer?

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:30pm
  41. I hardly see murderers as human.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:02pm
  42. I'm just saying... why is she a "he" all of a sudden because you don't like her? It just really bothers me to see this. Like as if cis people see treating me like the woman I am as a "reward" or something. Misgendering someone isn't just some petty insult. You're showing a lack of acceptance of all transgender people when you do that, even out of anger. Why can't she just be a rotten scumbag of a woman who deserves to rot in hell? Why does she have to be a man? Trans people being seen as authentic in their identities should be a given, and a required trait of being an ally to trans people. Making it contingent upon liking someone, or contingent upon them being a decent person to address them as their proper gender is communicating a lack of acceptance of all trans people. Does that make sense? Your choice of words is offensive, and comes off as transphobic. Let me explain with an example: If a black man murdered his wife, you might say, "That man deserves to rot in prison." Or you could choose to say, "That n*gger deserves to rot in prison." The second one would be seen as racist by your choice of words. Regardless of the fact you're talking about a murderer. You may have nothing against black people, but you still chose a racist choice It's not a direct comparison of the two situations, since misgendering someone is not the same as using a racial slur that's associated with generations of repression and despair. However, it does illustrate my point that in choosing to misgender her simply because she's a murder is offensive and harmful to me. (And misgendering is associated with plenty of repression and despair, but I still wouldn't dare say it's the same thing as racial oppression.)

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:09pm
  43. That's not true. Don't assume to think i dislike transgendered women or think them less of a woman than any one else. All I'm saying is I agree in letting people suffer the best way they can suffer when commuting a crime such as murder. You are a woman, I am a woman....she may be a woman but what better way to make her suffer than being denied what she really wants. Let her rot in the wrong body.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:17pm
  44. My choice of vocabulary was wrong. I didn't mean to offend you.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:19pm
  45. Couldn’t have said it better myself Laura Beth Jones :-)

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:24pm
  46. Laura Beth jones is a cu..

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:25pm
  47. I believe that prison should be a place that no one wants to even dream of going. And FYI to little Ms Saleena……im not an ally…..i am a member of the community….and a citizen who goes to work, pay my taxes, and stays out of trouble. I have an opinion and as do you but do not take my gay card away.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:30pm
  48. SHELL GO CRAZY OTHERWISE AND IS SHE STRIAHGT

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:35pm
  49. Hi, I’m mtf and I’ve been law enforcement in Kansas. I fully support the surgery, because I know first hand what really happens to transsexual people in prison.
    A lot of trans individuals end up in prison, for various crimes. We tend to have a number of personality issues because of the various traumas we face growing up and coming out.
    If you’re one of those magical transsexuals that hasn’t faced blind hatred and discrimination, then good for you. Even allies will never understand our struggles. So calling her a male is just wrong of you.
    Grow up.

    Besides, I’d rather my taxes help a fellow trans than to simply further line a politicians pockets.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:39pm
  50. i also live in kansas, specifically the kansas city area. i read an article about an openly MTF officer and thought it was magnificent. i was wondering if that article was possibly your story? they kept the identity quiet, obviously.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:03pm
  51. So you don’t like it when people are dismissive of you. Imagine how it feels to know that in the eyes of the so called community you are only validlid if you are useful? Too often I see members of this “community” worshipping one popular member and the next moment crucifying them the next. She is a murderer, an awful human being no doubt but she is still a she. Your emotions blind you.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:43pm
  52. I’m really surprised at the hate in this thread. This person murdered someone and they is a horrendous act. Bit that doesn’t mean that we ourselves need to abandon all respect for another human being innocent or not. She is a woman. Referring to her as a man is disrespectful to all trans people. Do I think she should have reassignment surgery on the taxpayers dollars? Not necessarily. I think a better solution is to put her in a women’s prison.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:49pm
  53. why am i not surprised by the ignorance displayed by my own “community?” this “community” is divisive in nature rather than united. it all starts with ignorance. pronoun usage is basic respect toward a transgender individual. it’s also not difficult in the least. that sort of crap is used by cisgender individuals with malicious intent. do you really want to be like them?

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 8:57pm
  54. Let him/her go to Russia in prison. I bet he/she wouldn’t get a free pass for surgery.
    He is a sick bastard to think I would pay for his surgery.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:05pm
  55. I am on SSDI and am a mtf trans-sexual. The government/medicare wont pay for me to get SRS but a murderer does? How I love america. So me a person who has never even commited a misdemeanor crime should suffer with disphoria while a criminal get it. Maybe I should go to prison so I can get a free pass to get SRS too. Is that the message we want to send?

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:15pm
  56. We have to fight to make sure that everyone is covered. Anytime they divide us by getting us to buy into the idea that one person deserves treatment but another doesn't we all lose.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:16pm
  57. Except we shouldn't be fighting for the rights of criminals. Natalie deserves the surgery, this person doesn't.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:30pm
  58. If we don't fight for the rights of people we don't like then those "rights" don't have any meaning. It's like fighting for the right to say things that everyone likes to hear; who needs to fight for *that*?

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:36pm
  59. As a gay man and a liberal I do not feel that the state should have to pay for someones reassignment surgery!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:18pm
  60. I’m sorry, but I am an ftm and I don’t think taxpayer money should be allowed to grant her the surgery she needs. However, get an insurance company to pay for it. My mother had to pay for my chest reassignment surgery out of pocket and also take out a loan on a credit to pay the full $8000 for my surgery. It is unfair that she gets to use taxpayer money to transition when the majority of the trans men and women have to pay for everything themselves just because of insurance company’s still saying SRS is cosmetic and not a necessity.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:19pm
  61. I just love this. “This person is BAD so therefore I should get to spew out my transphobia all over the place because it’s TOTES okay in this one scenario!”

    It’s not okay. You wouldn’t call someone defamatory and dehumanizing names based on race or ethnicity simply because of what crimes they committed. And making remarks like this is disrespectful towards all the law abiding trans folks. And, frankly, shows just how bigoted you really are when you think you have carte blanche.

    Do I wish that the person in question was much more sympathetic? Absolutely. But it’s the legal precedent that’s important here. Denying medical attention is considered cruel and unusual punishment. You don’t deny necessary procedures and medicines because that’s not what *civilized* societies do. The legal decision to ensure this person’s access to healthcare will make it that much harder for insurance companies to deny the rest of us. And both the AMA and the APA have determined that gender confirmation treatment is actually necessary and not “cosmetic” so spare me that particular rabbit hole of an argument.

    Sometimes change is uncomfortable and comes in unexpected ways. Deal with it. And for all you super concerned taxpayers? It will actually cost you nothing. Maybe you should be more concerned about how much the average taxpayer “contributes” towards things like corporate welfare.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:27pm
  62. Weston James; I doubt the article was about me. I would be interested in reading the article, but I’m willing to bet its about the officer in el dorado.
    I was in corrections, as is the only tgirl I know of in law enforcement… In Kansas law enforcement.
    That being said, I worked at lansing, which is just west of kc. While there a certain staff sergeant made sure to ridicule trans individuals.
    I met several other tgirls, though they were inmates. I witnessed the brutality against them, and did my best to protect them from other officers.
    I had to leave when a latino tgirl was beat to death in the showers, and the ranking officer on shift refused to charge anyone with the crime. I heard more disgusting “jokes” that day than I’ve ever heard.
    I left the next day.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:32pm
  63. they are in dire need of transgender education. hell, this entire state is.

    Replied on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:04pm
  64. Taxpayers should not be forced to pay for this. Take up a collection, raise some money, but don’t force people to pay.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:42pm
  65. You rather your taxes pay for politicians to have another vacation house?

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 9:46pm
  66. Not what happens in practice, Daniel, and guards are often BEHIND or complicit in the assaults.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:04pm
  67. And it doesn’t reflect well on you if you wish harm on others. It makes you equally as bad.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 10:04pm
  68. As a life long Democrat I DO NOT want my taxes used to pay for this! She can collect her own freaking funds not OUR tax dollars!

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:14pm
  69. This I agree with. She lost her rights when she broke the law, so the taxpayers should not have to pay for her surgery. If she wanted it done, she should have thought about it before she broke the law, bottom line. It’s unfortunate they treat her like crap, but she’s a criminal.

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:29pm
  70. ANYONE in prison should NOT get anymore benefits than a law-abiding person–NO insurance company pays for sex-reassignment surgery SO neither should the Government–in fact prisoners should ONLY get the basics, including NO FREE COLLEGE COURSES! Anyone outside has to pay tuition–Isn’t that right, Boston University?

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:38pm
  71. We should not pay fir this! Sorry

    Posted on Friday, January 31, 2014 at 11:47pm
  72. How else do i have to spell it out……i suck cock….i get my ass pounded on a regular basis….why can’t me saying I’m gay be good enough. Honestly.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 12:23am
  73. But ok fine….she doesn’t deserve taxpayers dollars for this surgery because she murder someone. She doesn’t deserve an easier life because she took away another womans.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 12:26am
  74. Now give me my gay card back for fucks sake

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 12:27am
  75. this is crazy. Inmates should NOT have any privileges of any kind.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 12:34am
  76. I am all for transgender rights, but if taxes are paying for it that is taking things to far.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 1:20am
  77. Melissa Savage; you referenced racism and went back to say its not the same because of generations of abuse and such. Am I missing something here?
    Is 2014 the first time transsexual peoples are abused on a daily basis? I’m pretty sure that while we are not confined to one skin color, we are one small section of society. To me, that means our issues are every bit as important as previous civil rights issues.

    I am surprised at how many people want to treat the inmate population as sub-animal. Brings me to something mentioned by an old corrections officer. Every single person here has done something that could have ended them in prison, if they were caught. You are no better than convicts, you just haven’t been caught.
    Stop pretending you’re better than anyone else, because you’re not. Seriously, how much experience do any of you have with prison life, or the repercussions after release from prison?
    The inmate population faces depressing situations, abusive situations. They are often sexually assaulted, and very little is or can be done to protect them.
    Some crime deserve death, but not one deserves constant rape and torture.
    Seriously.. Have any of you been sexually assaulted? If you have, how in the hell can you pass such judgment on anyone else? If not, what right do you have to speak on this subject?

    Simple fact, if you are transsexual and do anything to go to prison, you will be assaulted, and you will be hard pressed to find an authority figure that cares. Especially if the authority is male.
    Does this woman need the surgery? Gods yes. She will be less victimized in a female prison. Her punishment for the crime is life in prison. Not a lifelong rape session.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 1:44am
  78. Sadly, this thread shows the worst of the transsexual experience. Not even being regarded as PEOPLE, let alone as women. Would you lock your daughter into a room with 100 violent felons who have no access to a woman. But to keep her from getting pregnant they surgically sewed her vagina shut. So instead they rape her anally 3 to 5 times a day. Her only other option is solitary confinement, and then she gets anally raped by the guards every day.
    You would not call this cruel and unusual punishment?
    I had to be graphic to drive home the experience of transsexuals in prison.
    Remember, this is for decades without the possibility of parole. No time off for being raped.

    For many such women, the only way out is suicide, which this girl has already tried several times.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 2:48am
  79. I dont agree, many of my transgender friends cant afford to get GRS or have to work for years to get it and she gets it paid by tax payers? no offense but why should a criminal get it for free?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 3:34am
  80. No way- we should not be paying for this surgery. She should have the right to get the surgery and the right to be housed with females and take any medication she needs to fix her hormones bc that’s a medical necessity for her but this surgery should not be paid for by anyone but her. She should be responsible for providing the financial backing of an elective surgery like this.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 5:06am
  81. Sure shouldn’t pay for it!!

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 11:22am
  82. Good. Thats not something tax payers should pay for… Why would you ever think that would fly?

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 12:41pm
  83. Beth Everett its not elective. Its necessary.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 4:13pm
  84. Taxpayers shouldn’t be paying for this. The government doesn’t pay for other trangender citizens surgeries. Why should taxpayers pay for hers.

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 5:20pm
  85. No

    Posted on Saturday, February 1, 2014 at 7:46pm