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Colo. baker appeals ruling that he stop discriminating against same-sex couples

Monday, January 6, 2014

DENVER — A conservative Christian organization has appealed a judge’s ruling against a suburban Denver baker who refused to make a wedding cake for a same-sex ceremony.

Dave Mullins and Charlie Craig picket the bakery that refused them service.

Dave Mullins and Charlie Craig picket the bakery that refused them service.

Alliance Defending Freedom filed an appeal Monday on behalf of Masterpiece Cakeshop, which was ordered by a judge in December to stop discriminating against gay couples.

The American Civil Liberties Union filed a complaint against shop owner Jack Phillips on behalf of 33-year-old Charlie Craig and 29-year-old David Mullins, who were married in Massachusetts and wanted a wedding cake to celebrate in Colorado.

The complaint says that in July 2012, Phillips turned the couple away when he found out the cake was to celebrate a gay wedding.

ADF attorney Kristen Waggoner says “forcing Americans to promote ideas against their will undermines our constitutionally protected freedom of expression.”

Last month, in an interview on Fox News, Phillips said that it is “God’s design” for him to be a baker, and that he believes Jesus does not want him to bake cakes for same-sex couples.

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  1. ???????

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:35am
  2. haha

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:35am
  3. Why is it always the bakers?

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:36am
  4. Appeal away…. it is state law. If you don’t like it you can move to a state that doesn’t have non-discrimination laws on the books!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:36am
  5. oh wait, there is not one in the US :)

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:49am
  6. That isn't true John. In 29 US States you can be fired for nothing more than being gay... including mine.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:51am
  7. John, sadly many states in the United States do NOT have an anti-discrimination law with regards to sexual orientation.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:52am
  8. isn’t the baker the one being forced to submit and deny his opinions?

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:36am
  9. Yup. That's what happens when your opinions run afoul of the Constitutional rights/protections of others. This isn't difficult.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:48am
  10. Really what right do you have to buy anything? Please show me the part where this is stated in the ANY State Constitution or the Federal Constitution?

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:04am
  11. guess public business owners can choose not to sell products to a black person then. I LOVE YOUR BACKWARD THINKING!

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:51am
  12. Nope. He's not being forced to submit or deny anything. His BUSINESS is, but he's not his business!

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:58am
  13. Submit to what? Baking? He's a freakin' baker for money. That is what he does for a living. His bible did not say don't bake cakes for homosexuals. Next thing you'll say restaurants should be able to refuse to serve black people. Discrimination is diacrimination and unacceptable.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 6:44am
  14. nom…cake

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:36am
  15. Go to a different baker. Who needs this worthless turd?

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:36am
  16. Keep it up and you’ll be out of business

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:37am
  17. who’d want a bigot makin their cake anyway??

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:38am
  18. He’s not providing a religious service so he can’t discriminate.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:38am
  19. Like women only gyms cant?

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:56am
  20. Daniel, different situation. That's a contractual only business that has the authority to limit who they will contract with. They are organized differently under the law!

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 3:03am
  21. I wonder if people remember when it was against their “religious rights” to discriminate against people of color. Or some such…

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:38am
  22. I wonder if people remember the discriminatory practices of WOMEN ONLY gyms......

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:55am
  23. Daniel, you're a moron. Different segments of the law!

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 3:03am
  24. Discriminatory practices? Oh no, poor, oppressed men, being robbed of gym access for more than an hour a day. I don't see you complaining about the lack of women in the film industry, the pay difference between men and women, rape culture, or the fact that females are affected by ridiculous beauty standards to a much higher degree than men. Nor the fact that men seem to believe they're entitled to sex, and that a woman is called a prude for refusing sex, a slut for liking sex, and a bitch for calling you out on your bullshit.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:09pm
  25. When you break the law, opinion are just that, opinions. When you illegally discriminate, you pay the price. Personally, I’d just go to another baker, but it’s the principle, especially when the basis of the ideology for their discrimination is FALSE and MISINTERPRETED, as well as, written by men, not “God”.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:38am
  26. yup…i’m sure that’s JUST what that jesus fellow would have done

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:39am
  27. an idiot, i hope he goes bankrupt maybe that will teach him a lesson. I dont get why people who own a business would mind where the money comes from…black/white/gay/straight its all the same money

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:40am
  28. Boycott them, who knows what they would put in the cakes

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:41am
  29. but one thing I have always wondered with these food lawsuits. would you really want someone who hates you that much making something you are going to eat?!
    Kinda like pissing off you waiter and expecting not to have him spit in your food… :P

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:41am
  30. Why do people think Jesus ever turned people away. He interacted with them with no comment of judgement. He simply said if you knew me. I think we need to live like Jesus and how He loved others. We need to show His love not try to decide what He would do or say In a certain situation. He said love The Lord your God with all your heat. Love your neighbors as yourself. The key is live His love

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:42am
  31. They should make a video of themselves having rough gay sex on top of his cake and make loud comments whilst doing it how good icing is as lube then post it to him and get a nice new baker to make their real wedding cake :-)

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:43am
  32. Oh who the hell wants their damn cake anyway! Best thing to do is to hit them in the wallet, & boycott them! Screw ‘em!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:43am
  33. Maybe we can go back to whites only lunch counters too.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:43am
  34. If the Christian organization who are giving money for their legal expense is tax exempt they need to loose their tax exempt status.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:48am
  35. It’s a private company, let them do what they want. We shouldn’t be able to control religion the same way religion shouldn’t control our rights. It goes both ways, people, and you aren’t improving our cause with frivolous lawsuits that scare conservative Christians into thinking that their churches will be forced to perform same sex marriages (disclaimer: that’s not true, churches cannot be forced to do that. I’m illustrating the slippery slope that is human logic).

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:48am
  36. spoken like a true bigot...

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:47am
  37. Wrong Melissa, if they are open to the public, then they must be open to ALL the public!

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:53am
  38. commerce is the purview of government and laws ... your right to believe what you want doesn't trump or exceed that principle ... in other words ... you have a right to do business ... you don't have a right to make rules about who you do business with ... you don't want to deal with the public ... don't open a business ... no freedoms infringed on no matter what you believe ...

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 5:25am
  39. If you’re open for business, you’re open to everyone….that’s the law….and quite frankly I wouldn’t do business with them….the internet is a powerful tool, spread the word and find a new baker.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:50am
  40. Yes you have a "right" to someone else's property just because they are choosing to sell it makes sense.....

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:53am
  41. he probalby will throw the cake int he trash or donate it.. it is a matter of principal, and by him forcing the baker to make the cake - it is drawing a huge amount of criticism towards the baker. bet he is out of business within a year.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:49am
  42. daniel, do you understand colorado's constitution protects discrimination based on sexual orientation as well? when serving in the public sector, businesses sign a contract promising to abide by all government laws and regulations in exchange for tax benefits. he broke the law. there is no way around it.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:49am
  43. Daniel, the law is quite clear. The law states that if you are open to the general public, then you must sell to ALL the general public, without regards to their race, their gender, their religion, and in some states, their sexual orientation. Colorado is one of the states that includes sexual orientation.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:50am
  44. If he WAS forced to make you a cake after that, would you feel it would be safe to eat it?

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:50am
  45. It’s simple, don’t buy there, he’ll go out of business!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 1:58am
  46. Quit forcing him to serve you, go somewhere that needs your money. Quit supporting him.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:00am
  47. Please-what if he did not like unwed moms or people on birth control, could he refuse to bake for us? I am so sick of holier than thou business owners in America.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:00am
  48. You can’t force the guy to change his ways that’s not right. I’m not defending his opinion but his freedom to make it. Just don’t buy his shit

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:00am
  49. So he says Jesus told him Not to make the cake for them well I don’t think it matters who you are if your the customer then they have the right too have that cake made or have someone willing too make it

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:06am
  50. NO just NO, your view implies that you have a "right" to another person labor, time, and property. That is NOT ok

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:22am
  51. daniel, you are a closeted bigot.. sorry your argument is invalid int he US.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:50am
  52. Daniel, if that person opens a business to the general public, then they MUST serve all the public! They have a choice to not serve you by not serving everyone, but if they are open, they MUST serve you!

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 3:01am
  53. Why would you want to give them your business? Who cares if they don’t agree with your lifestyle, give someone who does agree your business.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:10am
  54. These stories don’t even mean anything any more. People getting their 15 minutes of fame. Kinda sick of even hearing this stuff

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:11am
  55. Yet another reason why “religions” should pay taxes and not be exempt from any laws.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:13am
  56. Let the baker run his business into the ground.
    Thats on him,.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:14am
  57. Boycott the business and put him out of business!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:16am
  58. Go out of business already and shut up.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:20am
  59. This is ridiculous. As many people have said why on earth would you want to give your money to a company that hates you? Just don’t go to them. It’s really that simple. When my wife and I got married we did a lot of online stuff specifically her suit because the only store in our town that sold what we were looking for is very homophobic. Truly the best way to get back at business owners who choose to be homophobic is to NOT GIVE THEM YOUR MONEY.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:22am
  60. it is the principal, it is costing the bakery more money then just a cake. Besides, silence = death...

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:47am
  61. The point is not just to refuse to do business with them, the point is that they are violating the law. If someone was being murdered on the street in front of you, would you simply walk away without calling the police? Of course not, even though it's not happening to YOU...

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:52am
  62. Give me a f-ing break, Jesus just told me to tell him he misunderstood directions.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:22am
  63. the bible was written by men,NOT GOD.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:24am
  64. to be accurate,it was REVISED BY king james,wonder if the revisions had anything to do with his rulings??hmmmmm.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:24am
  65. and his control over the people,we are not a nation of people from 2000 years ago!!!!read the constitution.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:25am
  66. Doesn’t he have a right to be bigoted? Even if it’s disgusting and wrong? Organize a boycott and put him out of business, the government has no place in small business.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:27am
  67. He PERSONALLY has a right to be bigoted, but his BUSINESS does not.

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:54am
  68. As much as I think this business owner is an ass and a bigot, let the market control. If people don’t shop there, he will go away. That’s American capitalism at its best. Fuck. Him!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:28am
  69. But that's not the law...

    Replied on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:53am
  70. Boycott….

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:32am
  71. Since when do we allow bullying? Last I heard, bullying was illegal.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:34am
  72. Fuck him.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:35am
  73. the only bake? gays boycott him. . .

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:45am
  74. One of the biggest problems with the world today is that
    we have large groups of people who will accept whatever
    they hear on the grapevine, just because it suits their
    worldview—not because it is actually true or because
    they have evidence to support it. The really striking
    thing is that it would not take much effort to establish
    validity in most of these cases… but people prefer
    reassurance to research.
    ··· Neil DeGrasse Tyson
    ……..
    Evil does not go away by itself. Words are power. Words are the greatest and most deadly weapon ever devised by mankind. One tree can make a million matches, it takes but one match to destroy a million trees. People have invented a million words, but it takes just one to destroy a million people.
    The religious bigots cannot continue to claim a mythos told them to be hateful, and expect people who THINK to believe them. That is delusional. The bigotry of these people is an excuse to ignore civility; it is nonsense devised to make themselves feel superior to others.
    They must be confronted and outed as the bigots and/or racists that they are. Do not allow them to slither away.
    ……….
    Skeptical scrutiny is the means
    in both science and religion, by
    which deep thoughts can be
    winnowed from deep nonsense.
    ··· Carl Sagan

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:56am
  75. Brian, you may be right. But I feel like this type of unnecessary battle is going to make it take longer for is to win the war. The core of the opposition to legalizing gay marriage sensationalizes stories like this to rally their base and convince those who may be on the fence that the gay “agenda” is going to rule every aspect of their lives. When they see the gay country going after small businesses that are VERY personal to their owners, they turn it into an attack on their religion and their freedom of speech even though neither are in danger. All for a cake I wouldn’t want eat because of the baked in bigotry.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 3:01am
  76. Segregated businesses in the sixties didn’t like being forced to let everyone use the same bathrooms or sit at the same tables, but that was wrong and they had to change. Same thing is happening here. “I don’t mind making a cake for gay folks, just not the same kind of cake I make for straight folks.”

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 3:05am
  77. wow, really?

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 3:07am
  78. Yeah they want to appeal so they can keep being bigots and judgmental against GLBT much like the Brown Shirts and Nazis were against the Jews, Blacks and GLBT! Let’s not mince words here. The Christian Right are goddamned Brown Shirts and Nazis, and if they could they would maim, incarcerate and murder every GLBT there is or will ever be. DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE YOUR ENEMY IN HOW THEY SPEAK, HOW THEY JUDGE, and HOW THEY MOVE.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 3:08am
  79. Brian. It’s the same thing. He owns his business. It is his property.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 3:23am
  80. Cake is probably dry and tasteless anyway. And if he wants to not make cakes for Gay weddings let it be. It’s his loss another Baker will surely be happy to take all that business. And who wants a wedding cake baked with hate .

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 3:39am
  81. Why wood you want a firkin cake from his narrow ass, go to another damn bakery. Jeez

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 5:10am
  82. i’d as soon see them get closed down but we are living in the age of money on the wrong side of justice … so even if they were boycotted the right wing nuts will throw their ill gotten gains in support of support them … it’s very sad that we have lost the very tenets of good business and good society on greed and hatred … it’s what happens when truth is twisted along with the message …

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 5:19am
  83. I can’t imagine that this couple intentionally went to a baker that was discriminatory to who they are as people. It is very likely that they found out once he refused service to them. So, if a person disliked people of color and refused service to them because it is in their belief system, we should look the other way because it’s their “right” to do so?! That’s not how law works. People wrap discrimination and bigotry in a cloak of “religious freedom” and cry out that it’s their “right” to do so. It’s still bigotry. People should not have a lawful right to not provide a service or goods to others if they are in business serving the public.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 5:20am
  84. I wouldn’t want some narrow minded person baking for me.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 5:30am
  85. And the reaction begins. Never ever underestimate the power of evangelical effluvia and fundamentalist filth to keep LGBT people as unequal, 3rd class citizens.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 5:32am
  86. So wait…God told the baker not to make cakes for homosexuals??? Really? I call BS. That isn’t being Christian. That’s just being a judgmental asshole.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 6:39am
  87. Then he needs to get out of the business of baking cakes for the general oubkic and only bake cakes for religious organizations of his same faith. Then he can do whatever he wants. But as kong as he has a business license to serve the public, he cannot discriminate.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 7:22am
  88. Run them out of business & out of town.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 9:48am
  89. he should not be forced to serve openly gay homosexuals if it offends his religious views

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 11:14am
  90. OMG!! This is so totally wrong. Discrimination is so over th top…I think that th baker’s rights have been infringed. Why do we have to cater to people that are against our beliefs. Politicians have made the USofA such a sappy place to live. Everyone must conform to whatever the politicians put out there and that’s just wrong!!!
    I don’t care how u live your life. I don’t care if u were born that way or if u chose to live that way. I don’t have to agree with it!! God created Adam & Eve…not Adam & Adam or Eve & Eve!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:29pm
  91. Boycott this douchebag!!!!!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 12:38pm
  92. why are ppl fighting so hard to give money to haters? i wouldn’t buy water from them if i was dying of thirst….

    Posted on Tuesday, January 7, 2014 at 2:55pm