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Matt Barber: Polygamy and incest are ‘inevitable’ if gay marriage is legalized

Thursday, August 23, 2012

On Wednesday’s “Faith and Freedom” program, Liberty Counsel’s Matt Barber declared that gay activists don’t actually want marriage equality but rather are interested in “deconstructing the Judeo-Christian notion of marriage as marriage has always been.”

In fact, Barber claimed, the institution of marriage has always been about restricting which sorts of relationships are legitimate, which is why “people can’t marry children, people can’t marry close relatives, people can’t marry their favorite pet.”

Barber then warned that if “we’re going to break the institution of marriage and radically redefine it” then “polygamy is inevitable if same-sex marriage becomes the law of the land and we can no longer have prohibitions on incestuous marriage”:

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129 more reader comments:

  1. You can marry your first cousin, legally, in states all over this country. You cannot marry a dog or a child because a dog or a child cannot enter into a legally binding contract. Polygamy is practiced all over the world, and is part of the biblical definition of marriage. Now, if Mr. Barber would like to address the incest, polygamy, adultery and rape in the bible, I’ll read that in a heartbeat.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:04am
  2. this man is a Grade A Dumbass

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:06am
  3. Actually in 25 states you can Marry a horse

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:07am
  4. Maybe we need to outlaw mormonism?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:07am
  5. I agree Kayla….how do polygamy and incest have anything to do with being “GAY”. I think he needs to get some education and some therapy.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:07am
  6. MORON!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:09am
  7. What? Are you serious? Really?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:09am
  8. I get so sick of heterosexuals trying to speak for my motivations. I don’t give a crap about religions or their definitions of marriage. I just want equality. End of Story.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:09am
  9. Wow, this is one uneducated fella.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:11am
  10. Um… don’t both these things already happen?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:12am
  11. Throw him in jail! He looks like jail meat anyways!!!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:12am
  12. I’d love the chance to tell that cretin in person just what my WANTS are!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:12am
  13. this man is insane..i agree with Les!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:12am
  14. @Alan not all religions try to force man and woman as ok to marry so please do not condemn all religions.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:13am
  15. Idiots like Matt Barber are actually brilliant….they attract an audience uneducated fools, ask for money to continue their mission of hate, and line their pockets with the money!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:14am
  16. Hell going backwards in his eyes? FUCTTARD!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:14am
  17. sick rumors gone amok……there is already polygamy in the offbranches of the mormons…LOL…what about the guys that have been on tv showing their 20 kids with 3 or more different women….people like Barber need to shut up and stop telling lies!!!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:14am
  18. And how exactly does HE know MY motivations?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:14am
  19. obviously, he has declared his deep seated issues! It’s that simple folks!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:15am
  20. Yet ANOTHER stupid, OBESE conservative F***!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:15am
  21. Marriage seems a bit archaic to me, why don’t we choose something better?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:16am
  22. That’s almost funny = NOT!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:17am
  23. Wow why don’t you help people instead of running your mouth for idiot remarks

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:18am
  24. who is this guy? what a dumbass

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:19am
  25. All these ppl r proving is that they r ignorant to lbgt life. And reality in general

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:19am
  26. This guy is a damned idiot!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:19am
  27. Is it just me…or does this guy seem to ENJOY talking about Gay people ? Oh, and, could he use his hands anymore ????? Looks like a good ol Queen in the closet to me !

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:19am
  28. Says the fat a$$ gorilla looking dude….incest is disgusting period

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:20am
  29. I have said it before, and I will say it again; Marriage is not a religious entity, it is a contractual agreement between two people. This is why it takes a court of law to dissolve the union. If it were of religion, which is what it is masked as, we could just go back to the clergy who united us and get the marriage dissolved. I understand that in some religions, the marriage has to be dissolved by the church, as well as the court, but this is not necessary to become legally divorced. Now, as for this man’s statements, wtf? Two consenting adults, no matter what gender, is nothing like incest or child marriage. Sicko! And as far as polygamous paths, who cares? We all follow our own path. No I do not think any child should be harmed or put into adult situations, but the people who believe in that type of marriage, and are consenting adults, so it should be. Equality is for all. And do not bring the idea of children into this adult conversation. Children should be protected from all adult issues. And gay and lesbian couples should have children if they want. A family is a family, and they deserve equal rights to take care of their families as we all should.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:22am
  30. Maybe he’s upset because he didn’t like being a bottom. Self loathing exists people

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:22am
  31. This man, Matt Barber, is an IDIOT and a HOMOPHOBIC ASSHOLE!!! To say that gay marriage will cause POLYGAMY and INCEST… Where do you live? That already exists with the HETEROSEXUALS of this world we live in.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:23am
  32. We will never stem the tide of the homosexual takeover of society until we ban hetero sex which is the exclusive source of homosexuals.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:23am
  33. Wow…..dumb ass. Just goes to show how ignorant ppl are

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:23am
  34. He only hopes.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:24am
  35. Isnt polygamy already going on….there are TV shows about it for crying out loud! And incest goes all the way back to your bible I believe. What. A. Moron.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:28am
  36. you ignorant bastard…it has been happening for centuries.. what is wrong with people in this world..has nothing to do with Gay marriage.. omgosh..you Matt Barber must be doing this yourself…

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:29am
  37. wait didn’t it already happen with Mormonism? sorry, that was uncalled for… pushing back only gives them something to push against, if we stop fighting them and just come together with people who agree with us, and work together as a country instead of letting them take the reigns away from us, maybe we can get some things done.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:30am
  38. what an idiot

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:30am
  39. its amazing that there are people this dumb and even more amazing that other people actually listen to him.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:32am
  40. How do you put Incest and Polygamy on the same tier as Gay marriage? I just don’t get how you get Incest out of two same-sex people loving eachother to the point of marriage.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:35am
  41. My comment was satirical my friends but a good argument to conpervatives who advocate the denial of rights to my gay friends.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:40am
  42. Just waiting for him to be caught in a hotel doing some rent boy. The most virulent homophobes are often closeted friends of Dorothy themselves. Can’t wait for it!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:40am
  43. Every time one of these people makes an idiotic statement I get depressed because I know that a fuckton of the people in the queer community that I hold so dearly in my heart are going to jump around screaming at the top of their lungs about how Poly is bad and stupid and Mormon. I’m fighting for your rights every day, how about you stop letting bigots tell you how to frame your arguments and don’t bring non-monogamy down to make a point?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:41am
  44. I’m failing to see a connection between incest and same-sex marriage. I’m married to a woman I have no relation, also both my parents were heterosexual. Dude is an idiot!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:44am
  45. Really? I always thought that that kind of sick shit already exsisted and was one of those things families NEVER talked about?!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:44am
  46. Ugly, fat ass closet case. Exactly.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:45am
  47. lock him up

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:45am
  48. What a bigot. If only I could talk to this man in person…

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:45am
  49. What a fucktard

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:45am
  50. Find him on Craigslist with an ad full of typo’s.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:46am
  51. Where do these goofs get their weird ideas?? Geez!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:46am
  52. Says the king of Chik-Fil-A. Sure he’s been to a few…

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:49am
  53. like they don’t exist now????? duh….

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:52am
  54. Wow, we all have the right to our opinion but if it’s that uneducated and stupid maybe just keep it to yourself.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:55am
  55. If his statements were based on fact they may have merrit but they are not. So tired of these people spewing their lies of what they believe to be facts. Doesn’t anyone do research anymore before they state their ignoramos claims? Or is that the deal? To get uneducated people to believe this hogwash? SMH. Just a bunch of lies to substantiate their prejudicial views.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:00am
  56. Maybe in your family… NOT OURS!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:02am
  57. What makes me mad is that these assholes,yes I said it,can’t distinguish the difference between love and lust. When u’re a polygamist,there’s no love in that relationship. How in the hell r u going to love 20 different people at the same time? U r lusting for that and at the time r just greedy! Incest,let’s not even talk about that. People do the polygamy and incest thing,because they have no morals and r just selfish ,nasty,and they want to do that.. When two people of the same sex, love eachother how can that be wrong? There’s no comparison of us to polygamists’, pedophiles,and incest cases. We want the same rights as straight people. For all u ignorant idiots out there,pedophiles,rapists’, people who commit incest and molestors, r married straight men.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:06am
  58. Douche bag of the week!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:06am
  59. Check his background people…his commuters probably are full of child porn!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:10am
  60. wow what a dumb ass

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:13am
  61. but it’s already out there….

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:18am
  62. what a douche bag

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:18am
  63. When they unlocked the gates of the nut house, they really left the doors WIDE open!!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:21am
  64. Tell this idiot to take a couple of aspirin, lie down, and shut up until his brain reboots. . .

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:24am
  65. What does Gay Marriage have to do with incest and polygamy?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:25am
  66. No way. If polygamy were an inevitable result of gay marriage then Romney would support it and the Mormon Church wouldn’t be so vociferously opposed to it.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:28am
  67. What planet is HE from?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:29am
  68. What a jerk!!!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:31am
  69. So obvious ! A deep closet queen!!!!! Self loathing sad case

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:34am
  70. Matt Barber, YOUR AN IDIOT!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:38am
  71. Seems to me that Polygamy is already main stream with Mitt Romney and the Morman Church. I am sure this asshole supports Mitt for President.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:39am
  72. Doesn’t polygamy and incest already happen? And hasn’t it been happening for years?’

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:41am
  73. Of course polygamy and incest are inevitable…because we already HAVE them. That doesn’t mean those who support same-sex marriage condone incest. As for polygamy, what business is it of mind if a bunch of people want to live together and form a family?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:41am
  74. this is an especially strange comment since there is polygamy in the Bible.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:48am
  75. If you believe him than being a moron is inevitable

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:51am
  76. Well idk if he has noticed but the government has allowed pockets of polygamists to settle in pockets of the west since at least the 90s, as well as deep south incest has occurred for the past idk 200 years….gay marriage has been allowed for the past allowed in what 7 states since 2004 so how could they be inevitable since they have occurred before gay marriage became socially acceptable notion

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:54am
  77. Omg! Who IS this guy?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:54am
  78. This is the type of ignorant and detrimental spew in the name of Christianity that I am adamantly against!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:54am
  79. How do 2 adults getting married leads to incest or even polygamy? Why do these ignorant homophobes insist in linking shit like this together?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:55am
  80. I tire of these wankers…

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 7:58am
  81. Polygamy and incest happen all the time idiot

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:07am
  82. Just another HATER

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:09am
  83. Omg who keeps letting these idiots speak and actually put it in to the universe! Get a life and quit trying to scare ppl into your retarded beliefs. And if this holds any truth then what’s the excuse that Polygamy and incest existed already for yearssssss and gay marriage is just now becoming a factor soooooo then what now Matt Barber… yep your just an idiot and at your age I hope you realize somethings and put yourself in check…dumbass

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:09am
  84. Complete idiot

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:12am
  85. Incest period is not a good thing …. Matt Barber you needto redefine life please ….

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:14am
  86. So not true

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:31am
  87. Fuck off, Matt Barber!!!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:31am
  88. Does he not know that incestuous marriages are legal in most states! Polygamy happens no matter if the state recognizes it or not. Oh yeah, the government recognizes corporations as a person sooooo…just saying. How is gay marriage going to hurt him?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:32am
  89. I wonder if he actually knows the meaning of those two words… tell this asshole, and every other idiot like him, to do some real research before they ever speak again. Good lord… these are the people of our government. And we’re supposed to feel..what? Safe?! Don’t make me laugh.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:33am
  90. Wtf can we ever grow out of this childish they have cuddies crap! This same carp has been going around for the past 100 years! Now back in the days of ancient Rome if the man of the house had a young male who he had sex with he was consecrated rich! same with the women. Not to mention the fact that most sexual abuse clams are on ” straight men” so if me loving a women makes me a sexual devent then I’m sorry to say the same can be said about a lot of the closet freaks out there! If you watch same sex porn your the same as I am!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:44am
  91. what a load of crap

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 8:53am
  92. Well I don’t know about incest, but Polygamy is not a new thing and happens in the bible rather frequently so I really don’t know what the bug up his but is. And yeah people do the poly thing and would like legal right with all there partners big whoop.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 9:00am
  93. It’s all in the way you look at it and his eyes are crossed.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 9:06am
  94. Where’s the proof ass it’s already legal in several states nothing bad has happened yet

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 9:13am
  95. Right, Matt! I’m guessing that you believe other things will come to pass, too, if gay marriage is legalized, such as the moon losing it’s orbit and it will come crashing to earth as well as dogs and cats suddenly beginning to have sex together. Get a life, you fucking moron!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 9:26am
  96. incest its rare that is with both parties of legal age and its usually a forced thing….. so its highly doubtful it will ever be legal.. and not heard of many cases of polygamy where its not a forcible marriage between an adult male elder and a very young girl of 13 to 15…..or some man or woman lying about having another spouse ….

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 9:31am
  97. and why do these elders feel polygamy is ok…hmmmmmm the bible …altho i dont remember the bible mention that a man of 25 to 70 must take a wife thats just a child of 12 to16.. by our standards..

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 9:38am
  98. How come most anti gay supporters is either fat looking ass sacks or having appearences that resembles Satan? Just curious…

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 9:47am
  99. what an ASS!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 10:01am
  100. Maybe in you family!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 10:08am
  101. OH wait, doesn’t polygamy go hand in hand with Mormonism?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 10:12am
  102. News flash people already do that. lookup the history of mormons.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 10:26am
  103. Thank you eileen that is what I’m screaming!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 10:28am
  104. This I’d like saying that ritual sacrifice & evil people are ‘inevitable’ if we have freedom of religion. It’s sad that in this day & age some people are still so ignorant. Gays could lie & say they are straight but isn’t lying a sin? The truth is suppose to set you free.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 10:47am
  105. Some people are just fucktards!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 10:49am
  106. If that is your best argument, for your own sake, you should keep quiet.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 10:59am
  107. Is he REALLY that dumb to think that gays are like that just because we are gay!!!!!! You stupid SOB!!! Get some education you fat *%#$!!!!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 11:15am
  108. ummm he does know that polygamy and incest has been done for a MUCH longer time than gay marriage, right?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 11:33am
  109. hetero’s coined the term hundreds of years ago. it didn’t start with us

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 11:41am
  110. Here we go again!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 12:21pm
  111. slippery slope fallacy

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 12:39pm
  112. Yeah because we all know that’s what happened here in Canada… what a fucking moron…

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 12:46pm
  113. Can’t believe anyone can be so stupid!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 1:07pm
  114. uhm… polygamy and incest are heterosexual endeavors… hello

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 1:35pm
  115. what???…I don’t even know what to say to that!!…that doesn’t even make sense!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 1:37pm
  116. Another whacko that fell off the turnip truck.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 1:54pm
  117. I don’t even want to read it, honestly. I have a feeling I know what he says, because it’s probably the same as they all have said, and honestly it’s getting tiring.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 2:27pm
  118. Jokie rolls eyes. &-{/}

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 2:53pm
  119. Come on out, Matt, the waters fine!!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 4:20pm
  120. incest, I can see keeping illegal. but what business is it of anyone else’s if 3 or more CONSENTING ADULTS OF ANY GENDER wish to be party to a marriage? seriously? I am in a poly relationships are not only in the realm of heterosexuals. I am transfemale, my boyfriend is trans male and our perfriend is a female body gender queer. people keep mentioning the moron, oops, mormon polyGYNY marriages. while a FORM of polygamy, it is not all there is. there is polyANDRY (one wife many husbands) as well as mixed poly groupings. (2 m, 2 f; 2 m 3f etc….) perhaps people should inform themselves first before spouting off about polygamy.

    so, Karen Nesbitt Colon, I am proof that poly relationships are not hetero endeavors. and there are cases of incest between 2 brothers or sisters, or fathers and sons. and I know I might catch flak for it, but if two consenting adult family members wish to engage in relations (and produce no offspring) how is it any of your business? you find it disgusting? DON’T DO IT.

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 4:45pm
  121. This guys a dick.. He even looks like one.. UGH

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 5:15pm
  122. Oh, honey, at some point you just gotta laugh at these trolls!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 5:17pm
  123. Guess I’ve been lucky, Larry,in my vast experience I’ve NEVER seen a dick as nasty looking as this twit! :-)

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 5:24pm
  124. hes a fucking idiot

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 5:50pm
  125. Idiot child

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 6:09pm
  126. What crap!

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 9:17pm
  127. Let me guess………….. he’s a MORMON, right?

    Posted on Thursday, August 23, 2012 at 11:51pm
  128. In so much as polygamy and incest ALREADY exist and always have, he is correct. However, his logic could also be applied to “If gays are allowed to marry there will be an oxygen/nitrogen gas layer over the planet Earth” and it too would be true.

    Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 at 3:52am
  129. and we might catch black if we share a drinking fountain. This too shall pass….

    Posted on Friday, August 24, 2012 at 4:35am