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Is it Christian to be Anti-Gay?

Thursday, August 16, 2012

Between Chick-fil-A and Wednesday’s shooting at the Family Research Council’s (FRC) offices, there’s been a lot of discussion about something called a “hate group.”

Groups such as the FRC, the National Organization for Marriage, Focus on the Family, Public Advocate, American Family Association and many others frequently refer to themselves as “pro-family,” “pro-marriage” and sometimes “Christian” organizations.

And when asked, the leaders of these groups will be the first to tell you they hold nothing against the gay community. It’s their actions though, that you need to take a look at.

FRC President Tony Perkins

As I’d mentioned in some discussions last week, Richard Nixon can say “I’m not a crook” all he wants, that doesn’t mean he’s not one.

While these groups may do some excellent work with Christian charities, their primary focus is on fighting to have the rights of LGBT people denied. But over the years, they’ve been able to frame what it is they do with those “po-family” and “Christian” modifiers.

It’s a frustrating fight for those of us seeking nothing more than equal treatment under the law, when these incorrectly identified groups can lie by claiming they are being attacked by people who are “anti-Christian” or “anti-family.”

Even Wednesday’s attack, though details are still not complete, it’s become clear that the suspect was angered over FRC’s anti-gay policies. If it was an organization that was simply hosting soup kitchens, running orphanages and caring for the poor, I can almost guarantee he wouldn’t be driven to opening fire in their offices.

That’s where the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) comes in.

According to their website, “SPLC is dedicated to fighting hate and bigotry, and to seeking justice for the most vulnerable members of our society. Using litigation, education and other forms of advocacy, we work toward the day when the ideals of equal justice and equal opportunity will be a reality.”

One of the ways SPLC does this is by exhaustively researching the work of groups like the Ku Klux Klan, neo-nazis, racist skinheads, black separatists and border vigilantes and identifying them as “hate groups.”

Identifying an anti-gay group as a “hate group” is based on their propagation of known falsehoods — claims about LGBT people that have been thoroughly discredited by scientific authorities — and repeated, groundless name-calling. Viewing homosexuality as unbiblical does not qualify organizations for listing as hate groups.

While identifying themselves as “pro-family” groups, these organizations are actually fighting against more than 1 million American families with more than 2 million kids who are being led by LGBT parents. Without marriage protections, some of these families are legal strangers to one another.

Anti-gay adoption laws, which were lobbied for and won by these organizations keep kids from ever finding forever homes. And anti-gay marriage laws assure that these families will suffer from a crippling lack of legal protections.

There is nothing “pro-family” or “Christian” about allowing families to be ripped apart or seeing children raised by a foster care system when there are thousands of loving couples ready to adopt.

In addition to the work of these groups in the U.S., some of them have been linked to anti-gay legislation in other countries.

The Ugandan “Kill the Gays” bill would penalize acts of homosexuality with life imprisonment or in “aggravated” cases, gay people could be put to death.

While the U.S. Congress was preparing to pass a condemnation of the Ugandan legislation, the FRC spent $25,000 on lobbyists to stop them from denouncing the law. They claim that they were only trying to change the language of the denouncement, but in prior lobbying documents from FRC, they’d indicated they were attempting “to amend” legislation, whereas the tax documents for this action contained no such itemization of amendments.

NOM President Brian Brown

These groups have painted themselves with bright colors to make people think they are fighting for tradition, for family, for morality and for freedom. But the truth of the matter is they don’t fight for anything.

They are only fighting against LGBT people so that we can’t experience the same freedoms they do.

How else can you explain the National Organization for Marriage, whose mission statement is “to protect marriage and the faith communities that sustain it,” attacking things like bathrooms for transgender people, gender identity in children, or children being taught that gay people even exist.

They’ve even worked to falsely link gay people to pedophilia. None of those things have anything to do with “protecting marriage,” so why are they fighting them? Because they are not pro-anything, they are anti-gay.

Folks, none of this is about marriage and none of this is about “protecting” anything. These groups have spent years weaving a myth shrouded in flowery and false “pro-Christian” memes.

Wednesday’s attack on FRC is something that was perpetrated by a man who was clearly out of his mind. And just as these groups’ motivations have very little to do with marriage, I don’t believe the shooter’s motivations did either.

And despite Family Research Council’s lobbying against the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act, we believe that what happened today was a hate crime and should be investigated as such.

The LGBT community understands all too well violence against people based on their political beliefs and personal lives.

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  1. yes.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 9:55am
  2. in my eyes it is not christian to be anit-gay…. God said to treat your neighbor like you like to be treated and not to judge..

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 9:56am
  3. no,the real Christian isn’t anti gay ,is pro love wherever comes because God is Love without limits and borders.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 9:57am
  4. Nope. I am gay, and a Christian. If being a christian, means being against gays- then I guess I am doing something wrong.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 9:57am
  5. It is Christian to be accepting. :)

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 9:57am
  6. It’s not Christian, or representative of ANY religion, to be anti ANYTHING!

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 9:59am
  7. it’s not christian to be anti anyone. let he who is without sin…

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:00am
  8. If you are a Christian and you take the bible at it’s word, then you are Anti-Gay. You guys really need to reevaluate your religion. It says love your neighbor as yourself. But remember, Your christian god is going to burn most of you in Hell for eternity! Gay or not! READ, people! READ!

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:01am
  9. I have friends who are Christian, and they support gay rights. It’s up to their own being if they feel like they want to hate or not.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:01am
  10. no!

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:03am
  11. is it christain ust to hate someone that is different than u???

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:04am
  12. The bible teaches it’s followers to hate gays….just one of the MANY reasons I don’t do religion of any kind

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:04am
  13. Oh and I just went to a gay wedding last Saturday so I guess I’m going to burn

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:05am
  14. Well said black Madonna !!!!! The bible and the Koran are horror fiction at its finest !!! Santa clause for grown folks.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:06am
  15. I guess if you want to create anger and hatred toward a group of people because of your religion (Crusades as one example), it is okay. Stupid!

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:06am
  16. No, and it’s possible to be Christian and GAY and HAPPY!!! And a literal interpretation of the bible has nothing to do with. Christ never once mentioned homosexuals in any of the accounts in the new Testament. I know G+d made me and I know that the Lord doesn’t want to see his children suffer, so I’m GAY by design and FABULOUS by grace.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:06am
  17. nope

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:09am
  18. @Andreea Alaska-Elite and the rest of the christian and christian apologist bigots:
    It’s so nice to cherry pick the bible for the verses you like and ignore.. pretty much the vast majority of it.

    I’m afraid the bible is vehemently against gay people. You do remember it telling the good christians to stone those evil bastards for.. loving a person from the same sex, right?

    A gay christian is like a nazi jew.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:11am
  19. Christians tend to be anti-everything that is not Christian.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:12am
  20. @Libby Hendrickson
    Read the bible. There are an awful many of people you are supposed to hate if you decide to join one of the christian clubs.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:13am
  21. For all those bible illiterate morons defending christianity:

    Go and educate yourself about your holy book.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:14am

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:16am
  23. It is not Chrstian to hate another person and wish evil upon them, referring especially to these “church officials” wanting to inflict physical harm to one who is homosexual. Is this God anti-anything? I think not.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:16am
  24. It is fear of a lack of ‘control’ that drives these individuals. I do not believe that ‘some’ people were selected to judge, change and discriminate at their whim. However, we must remember that not all Christians feel like this hateful individual feels.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:16am
  25. No. Not at all.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:17am
  26. It’s not Christian at all. There’s a difference between not agreeing with something and being completely against and spending time and money to hurt people who disagree. If you don’t agree with homosexuality, that’s fine, but no Christian should be out to kill us.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:19am
  27. God hates fags. It is clear in the bible that homosexuality is a sin. It is explicit. It is non-negotiable. There are lots of other inane rules too, and pretty much every single person who calls themselves “Christian” is breaking at least 10 of them every day. So according to that tedious thing they call a bible, they are going to hell along with all the gays they condemn.

    I fully accept the fact that, according to christian rules, I am a sinner. Anyone who calls themselves a christian and denies this fact is a hypocrite.

    Given that I’m smart enough to know that christianity is utter nonsense, that there is no magic sky daddy smiting me from above, that religion is nothing more than a way to manage the idiot masses…

    I don’t give a flying crap.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:19am
  28. Religion causes hate and war. I do not think it is Christian to be anti-gay

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:21am
  29. @Paul K Stankiewicz Jr
    You can’t seperate the old testament from the new testament. It’s part of the bible. Deal with it.
    Or are you ready to denounce the old testament as a steaming pile of shit?
    Jesus in the new testament certainly is not. He refers to the laws and commandments and stories of the old testament all the bloody time.

    Also, while jesus never talks about gay people in the bible, his disciples do.

    Here’s an example, where Paul groups gay people with murderers and fatherkillers:

    1 Timothy 1
    1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our Saviour, and Lord Jesus Christ, which is our hope;
    1:2 Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
    1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; (1:9-10) The religious right says that these verses require that homosexuality be illegal.
    1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
    1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:24am
  30. @John Hurst-Dennis
    Oh my!
    You really think it’s not christian to curse and hate and hurt people?

    Well, I could quote at least a few hundred lines here, but here’s one of my favourite verse that tells about how one of god’s favourite human being curses a group of small children for calling him baldhead… You know what you righteous, loving god does?
    Sends down bears to rip the children to shreds:

    2 Kings 2:23-24
    23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
    24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:29am
  31. no no way should it be

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 10:44am
  32. Matthew 19:11&12 Jesus Christ said gays are born that way out of their mothers womb so yes its Christian to be pro gay. The Pharisees in the Christian church refuse to accept this truth, but in the same verse Jesus said they would refuse to accept it

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 11:01am
  33. Yes it is Christian.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 11:14am
  34. Christ never said that being gay was a sin. Sorry, that’s Old Testament. Every Christian knows that the teaching of Jesus replaced Old Testament teachings. That’s why Christians are allowed to have a BLT for lunch, and a lobster for dinner.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 11:27am
  35. It is not Christian to be anti-Gay. It is simple hate, based on one line in the old testament/Leviticus about men not lying with men (yet says nothing about lesbians). Jesus would not have approved from what I know of him.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 11:38am
  36. @ Adam Morva (mostly)… 1 Timothy was originally written in Greek. The passage of which you speak was a letter Paul had written. The word that has been translated to mean “homosexual” was an obscure and made-up word that Paul uses twice throughout the bible, but is not found in any other text or the common Ancient Greek language. This word is “αρσενοκοίτες” and translates into English as “arsenokoitai”. This word has been discussed and debated at length for centuries, but if broken down and translated properly means simply “male-bed”. We could also assume that perhaps it was smeared, misspelled, misread, or other such none-sense. The point is we’ll never know for sure, he wasn’t talking to us, and like most of the bible it was probably translated very incorrectly. Adam’s name was never even “Adam” for crying out loud!

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 11:39am
  37. Hitler would be proud of them and call them Friends!

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 12:23pm
  38. @Melissa
    The fact that you choose the meaning of specific verses means two things.
    1.) You are reading the bible through your own distorting glasses.
    2.) Do you reall think a celestial user-manual whose purpose is to help you understand the creation and works of the most powerful, all knowing being in existence could possibly be misinterpreted? Or corrupted?
    Do you really think the all powerful god doesn’t have means to convey his thoughts to its creation?
    Or would let humans corrupt his holy words?
    Before you would get to examining the historicity or authencity of the bible the bible (and this whole god concept) disintegrates under its own logical fallacies, inconsistencies and such.

    Since the bible completely fails as an instruction manual to life, or as a moral compass or a source of valuable knowledge, it makes no sense to defend it, especially not its historicity or authenity.. If you admit to its errors regarding translation why do you stop there?

    Also, that verse is just one of the many verses condemning homosexuality.

    Romans 1
    1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
    1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
    1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 3:10pm
  39. @Keith Hewitt
    You do realize that the ten commandments – those commandments that virtually all christian think are sacred (although, a christian who can name more than 4 commandments is a rare sight) – are in the old testament, right?

    You simply can not ignore the old testament, because it’s about the deeds and ideas and values of the same god who is in the new testament – and those values and deeds include genocide, bigotry, misoginy, infanticide, hatred for gays, and so on, and so on, ad nauseum.

    But I don’t understand why are we arguing about this, since a historical jesus most probably never existed, and certainly did not as the bible paints him.

    Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2012 at 3:27pm

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:33am
  41. I’m bi and Christian.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:34am
  42. Yup its in the bible….STUPID!!!!

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:35am
  43. Yes, it’s very Christian. Of course, you can always cherry-pick (like the fundamentalists do) and do a tippy-toe fancy dance move around the biblical death warrants but the scriptures remain the same.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:35am
  44. Hate is not a virtue!

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:37am
  45. Lots of things are in there. Doesn’t make them all true.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:37am
  46. Is it American to want to base civil laws on religious dogma?

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:38am
  47. Hey Maria! ” I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.” (1 Timothy 2:11-12) So shut the F up, stupid woman, that’s in the Bible, too.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:39am
  48. …and does it matter?…Last I checked this was a Nation based on multiple Freedoms, regardless of whether Christian, Shinto, Buddhist, Muslim or Pantheist…Why should our supposedly Secular Government measure a Citizens rights based on 1 popularly narrow Religion?{never mind the separation of church and state..pfft}

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:40am
  49. It would seem that way but, not everyone is obsessed like this extreme group is.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:40am
  50. If you abandon Old testament Jewish writings, this question can almost disappear, since Jesus “Christ” said nothing about gays lesbians or homosexuality at all.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:42am
  51. “Christian”, yes. Christ-like ? no.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:45am
  52. bruce, yu r right. i wnt 2 find mysel, if any add me, i hope to question of who me

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:45am
  53. It is Christian to be accepting. :)

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:46am
  54. That’s total garbage. I know lots of gay Christians and Christians who support gay rights.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:46am
  55. It is totally UN-Christian to be anti-gay.

    I’m agnostic but I have read the Bible from time to time and nowhere in either Testament does God talk about hating the LGBTQ community, yet fake Christians continue to spin Corinthians and Leviticus just because both books have the word “homosexual” in them.

    There are only two real commandments in the Bible that God gave to His people (Matt 22:37-40): “Love your neighbor and love yourself.” Forget everything else the radicals spew.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:48am
  56. Yet another brilliant article.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:49am
  57. The scriptures have been changed 200,000 times throught history. Know your history and stop being sheep.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:50am
  58. they are religous but NOT CHRISTIAN .

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:50am
  59. they cant even read the bible correctly

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:51am
  60. “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians; they are not like your Christ.” — Mahatma Gandhi

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:52am
  61. The ol’ REAL Christian™ argument – pretending that the other side (whether fundamentalist or liberal) has a lack of reading comprehension skills. An exercise of arrogance.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:53am
  62. CL Long-Sutter: How do you read the Bible correctly? This I got to hear.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:54am
  63. This issue is not new. It has been going on for centuries – and yes, the word of that so-called god must look at homosexuality as a sin and a person who practices it as being immoral. So what is the big deal? That solved it for me – it let me know as a child when I discovered I was gay that that book is wrong – religion is a sham. I know who I am and I am as worthy as anyone else – if not more than any Christian, Catholic, Jew, etc. I have risen above the fear and need to worship something I have never seen or knew. It has given me the idea that Atheism is for me – but there is no group I belong to or follow. I am a good person and I am responsible for my world and well-being.

    I do however feel the days of feeding Christians to the lions may be needed soon. They so long to hold onto power with this false belief and using it to attempt to control others, as they have throughout centuries.

    We are not primitive being throwing rocks at the moon anymore – religion is what reflects this fear and lack of knowledge about life and the planet.


    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:55am
  64. It is completely un-Christian to be anti-gay.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 10:58am
  65. I am Christian and I’m not anti-gay. I’m not anti anything because giving others the same rights as myself doesn’t take anything away from my rights. This includes Atheists, LGBT people, the many religions out there, etc. I also stand strongly for separation of church and state.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 11:02am
  66. My only problem is that those who are Christian and claim to not be anti-gay eventually say something that says otherwise. That is just in my personal experience from living down south. Now, I’m obviously disregarding those who are gay AND Christian.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 11:07am
  67. Any extremest are not what they proclaim to be. It doesn’t matter if they call themselves Christian, Muslim, Islam, or any other religious or non religious affiliation. Extremest are radicals who are out of control and are even more dangerous as the people who are that walking in and try to guy them down. The only thing is they won’t agree and they keep pushing people into do wrong things.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 11:11am
  68. iam gay and a christian and in the old testiment it says if man shall lay with man they too both shall be put to death.. it also saids if the child disobey parents they shall be stoned well we dont really stone our children when they disobey so why take . if man shall lay with man the too both shall be put to death. so liturally? it also says God loves all of his children.
    God does not hate the sinner for he loves his children but dislikes the sin that is being done by his child(ren)

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 11:17am
  69. Down south they are all messed up. I had a couple friends on my facebook that live down south and eventually I had to remove them because their posts were just too much. They are mother and daughter. Daughter was in a gay relationship at one time. She is now married to a man. Mother says that she loves her daughter but doesn’t agree with her having been with a woman. Even though the daughter was in a gay relationship she is anti-gay now, joining with her mom in their stand against gay marriage. They celebrated on their pages when Amendment One passed. The mother claims to have gay friends and loves them but doesn’t believe they should be able to get married. I am not alone in my enlightened Christian view. There is a movement where Christians are breaking from churches and thinking for themselves. They are studying God’s word without the churches input and figuring things out. I have quite a few new “friends” on my fb page…people I have come across on fb that are a part of this movement. And then there are those that I see on their pages that have the same views. Once we become more vocal I think we will manage to redefine the word “Christian” and it won’t always carry such negative tones. I have started calling those who force their views on others and insist that laws reflect those views as “religious” since there are many differenet religions that share the same anti-everything stand.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 11:22am
  70. A biased christian

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 11:56am
  71. Hell no it isn’t!

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 12:13pm
  72. i never tried chick a fil sandwich honestly NOPE but i tried spicy chicken at carls jr for $1. that makes me so GAY (yep, i’m gay)…..

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 12:20pm
  73. Its ignorant.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 12:27pm
  74. NO NO NO! jesus NEVER WAS

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 12:59pm
  75. Only if one WANTS it to be!!!!

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 2:23pm
  76. If you are antigay, you lack compassion and you are trying to do God’s job. I don’t think He appreciates that.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 3:23pm
  77. Can anyone really imagine Jesus telling a person they are “disordered” and their LOVE is “intrinsically evil”?

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 3:54pm
  78. Methinks some people are entirely unaware of the fact that Christians worship a well-documented genocidal deity, that Christianity spread in Europe MAINLY by the sword, and that their entire religion is based not on any foundational documents (There are NO original gospels. NONE.), but on sets of OTHER previous religions. Yes, sets. The Christian myth was cobbled together from Jewish and other previous myths. I will also add that it’s pretty well documented that the Catholic church joined same sex couples at one time. It wasn’t until the 1200s that they decided to stop that practice.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 4:37pm
  79. Purpitto !!! Such horrible words !!!

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 5:02pm
  80. The KKK considers itself “Christian,” but that doesn’t make it so. Neither are these hate groups that hijack the good name of Christianity for their own perverted purposes.

    Posted on Sunday, August 19, 2012 at 8:00pm
  81. No, just look at Jesus and his acceptance of the gays in scripture!

    Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 at 12:15am
  82. Posted on Monday, August 20, 2012 at 2:40pm