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Maggie Gallagher’s interview on MSNBC: ‘Your embarrassment is well deserved’

Saturday, February 18, 2012

Maggie Gallagher, co-founder of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM), an anti-marriage-equality group, was interviewed on the Feb. 11 edition MSNBC’s Up with Chris Hayes, and it didn’t go well for her.

Gallagher was vigorously challenged in regard to NOM’s position on marriage equality and her alleged personal animus toward the LGBTQ community. This led her to get defensive, and she made a bunch of denials that can be easily disproven (the pertinent stuff begins at 8:44 of the video). Watch:

According to Scott Wooledge of Daily Kos:

… The sparks really fly when Richard Kim, executive editor of TheNation.com, gets a chance to address Gallagher. He begins by saying:

Kim: I think you and your organization have really failed to present any evidence that same-sex marriage impacts heterosexual marriages. You also however have advocated for gay reparative therapy, as has the National Organization for Marriage, you have called homosexuality a “dysfunction” and not normal…

Gallagher: No! I have not! I have not! I have not done any of those thing

Kim: So it’s hard to escape the conclusion that there is just anti-gay animus and bigotry behind your campaign.

Gallagher: You know you are making up — well, you can make up any conclusions you want. But you have just made up a bunch of facts that aren’t true.

Gallagher then proceeded to say that NOM does not advocate for gay reparative therapy. Kim then called attention to several articles on NOM’s webpage which called homosexuality a mental health problem.

The following were Maggie’s exact words:

“No there isn’t. You are confusing us with some other organization. It’s not true.

Gallagher said also that she keeps a close view of what goes on the blog and just because NOM links to a piece doesn’t mean the group endorses it.

Of course that explanation is just plain ludicrous. Linking to a piece doesn’t mean you endorse the piece. It is all about context. And generally when NOM links to pieces about the LGBTQ community, the inference is that we are the “diseased other out to destroy society.”

So I am of the opinion that there is a slight degree of endorsement in the pieces that NOM links to. Gallagher used the “we don’t endorse everything we link to” defense in December when it was discovered that NOM’s blog linked to an article A “Bad Catholic” Case Against SSM?

That post made the following claims:

  • Gay couples are less likely to stay together
  • Gay couples don’t want to get married
  • Gay relationships are more likely to be violent/abusive

In addition, it cited research from junk scientist Paul Cameron, a discredited researcher who has said that homosexuality is a mental health problem. Amongst other things, Cameron has claimed that gay men stuff gerbils up their rectums.

He has also been censured by folks on the left and right of the political spectrum for his bad research techniques.

According to Equality Matters, NOM has also promoted columns which said:

These pieces are promoted either on NOM’s main blog or NOM affiliated blog The Ruth Institute run by Jennifer Roback Morse. Morse once wrote a piece implying that white gay men are stealing African-American children from their homes via adoption.

Now according to blogger Jeremy Hooper, Gallagher herself has made some ugly comments about the lgbtq community in spite of her assertions that she hasn’t:

Maggie has called homosexuality an “unfortunate thing,” “at a minimum, a sexual dysfunction much as impotence or infertility,” and “a sexual disability preventing certain individuals from participating in the normal reproductive patterns of the human species.

She has also suggested that gays “can always control their behavior,” and even called on a sitting President to give more funding to scientifically-shunned “ex-gay” research.

Hooper also points out that NOM’s people have in fact endorse reparative therapy:

Also, NOM president Brian Brown recently touted a (flawed) “ex-gay” study, saying “Even those who disagree with us about gay marriage (or Christian sexual ethics) should feel good about this this scientific verification of the possibility of free will triumphing over desire. We are all more than our instincts, sexual or otherwise” [SOURCE].

NOM’s Culture Director, Thomas Peters, has advocated for Courage, a Catholic “change” organization. Peters has also said that the MSM intentionally denies that “change happens.

Good grief, Maggie. Your lies were so bad that I almost feel sorry for you.

Almost, I said. But your embarrassment is well deserved, so I don’t feel totally sorry for you.

But thank you for making our job of exposing your and NOM’s lies and hypocrisy so damn easy.

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34 more reader comments:

  1. Nice hair

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:28pm
  2. Lol, what a fail. XD

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:30pm
  3. I guess reality is whatever you make it. And this slag is living outside of reality. sorry, I didn’t last 2 minutes in to whatever point she was trying to make.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:30pm
  4. At least she has no idea what shes talking about

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:30pm
  5. i have never met her. but i hate her so much.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:31pm
  6. @Betty: no, that is not nice hair. that is what we call a bowl cut. makes her look like a dyke don’t you think?

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:33pm
  7. @jane Im pretty sure she was sarcastic xD

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:36pm
  8. She is an embarrassment. Makes you wonder why her husband left.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:36pm
  9. Wait. Since when did Ms. Swan become NOM’s spokesperson?

    And I’m done.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:37pm
  10. They will go down in flames! They are fighting what is right!

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:39pm
  11. lol She is ugly from the outside in.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:42pm
  12. OMG. ’nuff said. :(

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:43pm
  13. Four educated people in favor of a civil right versus one religious, selfish woman advocating discrimination. She did sound more like a fool than anything else, and for that I’m glad. People who oppose marriage equality really have no better reason than their religious beliefs, egoism, or just plain ignorance.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:45pm
  14. Maggie Gallagher is trying out for a part in spaceballs 2!

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:46pm
  15. I don’t even want to watch that uneducated cunt speak.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:47pm
  16. Five, my bad.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 12:47pm
  17. Does this lady know she an ugly bitch?

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:00pm
  18. oh, this is classic..ha..ha…

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:20pm
  19. WHAT A SLOB !!

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:21pm
  20. Luvin’ me some Chris Hayes!

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:22pm
  21. Yeah, that is embarrassing.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:24pm
  22. I think she is this against us because in reality she is a closeted dyke and doesn’t want to be outed!! She surely looks like one!!!

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:25pm
  23. She reminds me of friends I’ve known over the years who had crushes on their obvious-to-all-except-them gay male friends, then hates homosexuality because it crushed their heart. As if, somehow, if homo’s weren’t ALLOWED to be gay, she would have been happy & married to the love of her life. Gives Fag Hags a bad name! – Santa Barbara’s most prestigious fag hag, circa 1993-1994, me.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:41pm
  24. All I can say is: “Moooo”

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:47pm
  25. Her hate against us is merely a projection of the hate she has towards herself. It has nothing to do with us, but she is unaware of why she feels that way, is unwilling to take a good hard look at herself and change her heart from a cold, hateful one to a loving, accepting one. Instead of changing herself, she is setting out to change and fix people that do not fit her view of how people are. There’s a deep rooted fear that is going unaddressed within Maggie. It’s just a sad way to life, to live your life with so much hate towards people that are different. I mean who wants to wake up every morning with a feeling of “I hate gays, they have no right to have happiness, they have no right to be married, etc.” People will find illogical and irrational reasons to justify their reason to judge and control others.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:48pm
  26. Scowser GIT!!!!

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 1:54pm
  27. Dear Maggie: I was born gay, were you born hateful?

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 3:28pm
  28. She’s fat!

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 3:50pm
  29. thats not nice, jeffrey

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 7:15pm
  30. It’s got nothing to do with her being ‘fat’, Jeffrey…it’s got everything to do with her lying and other bullshit.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 8:39pm
  31. Asshat. =(

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 9:40pm
  32. I am not one to judges, but I bet she never got over not being asked to prom by the guy she had a crush on, and blames his gayness for it, rather than she is a bitch.

    Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2012 at 10:31pm
  33. Remember putting others down with hateful words just because they are anti-gay does not make us look any better. Be conscious of that and don’t give them more fuel to their fire. Learn to take the high road and choose more intelligent and wiser words. Choose Peace & Love.

    Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 at 11:03am
  34. o come on…u know she is itchin’ to get her cooch worked over by a hot lesbian

    Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2012 at 11:39am