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Filed: Tuesday, January 24, 2012

TN lawmaker compares homosexuality to ‘pedophilia, prostitution, murder’

By Igor Volsky
Think Progress
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Lawmakers in Tennessee are considering legislation that would protect bullies who harass other students for their sexual orientation.

The so-called “license to bully” bill (HB 1153/SB 0760) would allow students to share any “religious, philosophical, or political views” that are “unpopular,” regardless of their consequences to the learning environment, and limits educators’ ability to curb such harassment.

Joe Ragan

Equality advocates lodged an email protest campaign against the measure, but were particularly surprised by the reaction of state Rep. John Ragan (R).

In a long letter to one opponent of the bill, Ragan replied that gay “feelings” can be controlled by “mentally healthy adult human beings,” and concluded by stating, “Should society avoid disapproving of pedophilia, prostitution, murder, etc., because practitioners of those behaviors may commit suicide at higher rates?” An excerpt from his letter:

Examining another statistic, it has been well known for a decade that suicide is attempted much more frequently in the homosexual community than in the heterosexual community (Mathy, Cochran, Olsen, & Mays, 2009). This same source pointed out that, on average, suicide is approximately three times more likely among homosexuals than heterosexuals.

As a fitting critical thought question, it could be asked if other identifiable groups that engage in behavior of which “others may disapprove” commit suicide at similar rates? In other words, do prostitutes, pedophiles, polygamists, murders, etc., commit suicide at the same, or similar, rates to homosexual behavior practitioners?

If similar rates were hypothetically so (not proven to be the case), do these behavior practitioners commit suicide at a higher rate because someone may have disapproved of their behavior or for other reasons? Should society avoid disapproving of pedophilia, prostitution, murder, etc., because practitioners of those behaviors may commit suicide at higher rates?

The mindset behind the measure undermines research that shows that the presence of LGBT-inclusive anti-bullying policies, supportive staff, and gay-straight alliances help minimize bullying.

In addition to this bill, the Tennessee legislature will also reconsider the infamous “Don’t Say Gay” bill, which prevents teachers and staff from providing any educational support about LGBT identities.

© Think Progress.
This article was published by the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

Tags: Bullying, Don't Say Gay Bill, Gay Straight Alliance, Joe Ragan, Tennessee

Filed under: Tennessee

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  1. Why is this not shocking? Just another ignorant bigot who is ill informed.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:24pm
  2. isn’t cute how these politicians never grow up….

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:24pm
  3. He’ll be the next elected official to be highlighted on the ‘Republican Schadenfreud” website when he gets caught in a hotel room with an underage rent boy.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:25pm
  4. I didnt’ even bother reading the article….amazing what those hicks come up with…..they’ve been saying this shite for decades

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:25pm
  5. Wow… Who is he to judge? Why do politicians feel the need to force their PERSONAL beliefs on us POLITICALLY? What is wrong with this nation? What is wrong with this world? When will we all receive the rights that we all deserve? When will we see true equality? Ron Paul 2012.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:25pm
  6. if love me for who i am and not what you want me to be, if god can love me then you can too.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:26pm
  7. thank god I don’t live even near to Tn

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:26pm
  8. Ron Paul is a hypocrite, Logan. Obama 2012

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:26pm
  9. I’m loling.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:27pm
  10. grrrrrrrrrrrr

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:28pm
  11. another Republican monster.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:29pm
  12. omg, it takes some BALLS to downplay suicide… insensitive ahole

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:29pm
  13. What a fucknut..

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:29pm
  14. Asshole

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:29pm
  15. When will these idiotic bigots get over themselves and erase the hate?!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:29pm
  16. I don’t care which politician makes it this year, as long as he/she realizes that their moral beliefs are their own. I don’t impose my sexuality on someone else; others really need to grow up and do the same.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:30pm
  17. Why compare something innocent to all the things straight people do :O

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:30pm
  18. Bastard , motherf… !

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:31pm
  19. like i always say, he could use a big Bear hug…

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:32pm
  20. I could just take a sledge-hammer to this guys nuts.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:32pm
  21. Another I D I O T

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:34pm
  22. Amazingly uneducated.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:34pm
  23. Only in his sick mind.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:34pm
  24. What a pig…

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:36pm
  25. and i live here in TN, that’s what saddens me. I’m proud to be a UT Vol but not as much as Tennessean when we have assholes like representing the state. when are they ever gonna wake up and see we’re not going away with the swish of some magical wand. ignorance, hate, and their own insecurities. it’s just sad oh yeah, and pathetic.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:36pm
  26. Sooooooooo sad

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:36pm
  27. *yawn* “straight” jacket anyone? lol

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:37pm
  28. here we go again

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:37pm
  29. This guy is a moronic butthole who is clearly still lost in the decade he got his haircut! Sorry..hate to cut on people, but what an idiot!!!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:37pm
  30. Go back to grade school and learn English!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:41pm
  31. Wow this dude can eat a bag of dicks…

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:42pm
  32. He just confessed to a host of feelings of his own ;-{P}

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:47pm
  33. Seriously? Can’t we just declare him mentally incompetent and remove him from office?

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:48pm
  34. wow,and this guy is supposed to have more schooling then me, wake up idiot.you cannot compare homosex. to these kinds of things. it’s like comparing a squash to a Passiflora edulis fruit from paraguay. not even in the same ballpark as one another. that’s alright, karma is a bitch.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:49pm
  35. what an idiot.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:50pm
  36. Horrible and Ignorant!!!!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:52pm
  37. I’m embarrassed to live in the same state as this ignorant, close-minded moron.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 5:54pm
  38. Ron Paul for President!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:03pm
  39. Hmmm why do 9 people Like this for??

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:12pm
  40. This man is extremely ignorant..may God forgive him.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:17pm
  41. Thats ok because I compare his comparisons to that of and a**h***.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:17pm
  42. LOL.. do we really care what this fool thinks.. trying to make a name for himself. Hate apparently is the way to go for this freak.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:21pm
  43. Biggot!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:27pm
  44. well they do say the most homophobic people are ones who are really just in the closet and hating on themselves. He is doing a very good job getting people against him…His ignorance and stupidity is truely inspiring :P

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:30pm
  45. So he is describing his pastor, his mom, and his father…Not surprised

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:35pm
  46. “Mentally healthy” really? The American Psychological Association states that homosexuality, or as I prefer, (LGBTQ), is not a mental disorder. The state of his mental health might be questionable, or he could just be an asshole, for which there is no known cure.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:45pm
  47. Insecure idiot!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:53pm
  48. counting the inexhaustible supply of morons. ugh.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 6:55pm
  49. and hate-filled lies can ALSO be controlled by voting the bastard out of office! :)

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 7:04pm
  50. MORE STUPID!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 7:37pm
  51. When will these freaking morons shut the hell up and just die away. I’m so sick of this bigoted BS aleady. By the way, I’m staight.

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 7:48pm
  52. Interesting because being a TN lawmaker is way worst then murder and prostitution ( although arguably it is a from of prostitution) and well I am not going to go any further in my comparison-I was raised to be a kind and thoughtful gentleman-and never a TN politician!!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 7:54pm
  53. IGNORANCE AT IT’S BEST. How the heck can 2 people of the same sex falling in love with each other or being physical attracted to each other be ble to be compared to pedophilia, prostitution & murder!?! These people are f*cking nuts. I mean seriously insane in the membrane! #smh

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 8:21pm
  54. This shows the reason abortion should stay legal, if his mother only knew she could have prevented this asshole from ever speaking !

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 8:50pm
  55. My heart goes out to our all of our family who lives in this state! Stay Strong!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 9:05pm
  56. My heart goes out to all of our “family” who live in this state. Stay Strong!

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 9:11pm
  57. That’s ok, because we compare him to HITLER! :P

    Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 at 9:52pm
  58. Anyone coming into contact with Rep. John Ragan should take ANY ACTION POSSIBLE to harm him.

    Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 at 1:34pm
  59. John Ragan has the outright balls to say:

    “As a fitting critical thought question, it could be asked if other identifiable groups that engage in behavior of which “others may disapprove” commit suicide at similar rates? In other words, do prostitutes, pedophiles, polygamists, murders, etc., commit suicide at the same, or similar, rates to homosexual behavior practitioners?”

    Well, gee, you dumb son-of-a-bitch, why do you suppose all these gay youngsters are killing themselves? Did you ever stop to ask yourself that?

    They’re killing themselves because of plain and simple BULLYING by a bunch of braindead one-dimensional zombies who actually believe their precious man-written bible, initially scribed for a culture thousands of years dead in its grave, represents “the word of God!”

    Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2012 at 8:26pm
  60. if that bill passed and i was still a high school student or younger and SAW someone bullying someone over their sexual orientation because now they can get away with it, i would beat the living shit outta them within an inch of their life or worse kill them and for me that shit would be worth it..

    Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2012 at 6:46pm
  61. Well guys and gals what do you expect from an offspring of a brother, sister marraige, you expect and get an idiot like joe ragg-on. Why you know closey related kin are always marrying each other there in the smokey mountain state, that’s why they’re so damn stupid and joe ragg-on is living proof. I hope his false teeth fell out when he read his own moronic letter. LGBTQ people in Tennessee are exempted from brother, sister and close-kin relationships.

    Posted on Sunday, January 29, 2012 at 3:10pm
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