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The National Organization for Marriage (NOM) has been on its best behavior since early December, when it was forced to explain several posts it promoted that linked homosexuality to child molestation. For the past month, the organization has stuck to covering the Iowa primary, asking its supporters for donations, and even commenting on Katy Perry’s divorce.
On Wednesday, however, the organization reverted to its anti-gay ways. In a January 5 blog post, NOM’s Ruth Institute promoted a column written by Douglas Farrow, Professor of Christian Thought at McGill University in Montreal. Farrow’s column, titled “Why Fight Same-Sex Marriage?,” is riddled with ridiculous claims about the consequences of legalizing gay marriage: marriage equality will lead to “the bastardization of the citizenry,” cause “the sexualization of our children,” leave behind a “moral wasteland,” etc.
A large portion of Farrow’s column, though, is devoted to rehashing one of NOM’s most extreme talking points – marriage equality will pave the way for the normalization of pedophilia:
Pedophilia, for example, is an orientation, or so the psychologists tell us. And orientations are now constitutionally protected, not to say politically celebrated. How then can we continue discriminating against pedophiles, which clearly we do? [...]
[W]e cannot then avoid the implication that there exists no inviolable right to sexual self-expression or indeed to public approval of a so-called orientation. And if that is true for pedophiles—perhaps for consistency we should call them pedosexuals—it is true
also for homosexuals and heterosexuals. There may be, or arise, real and present dangers to society that justify repression of one or both of the latter, as of the former; and the same is true for any other tendency or orientation. [...]Some attack the second premise only from the perimeter, so to speak, arguing for a narrower construal of the word “children,” that is, for a lowering of the age of consent; but that only postpones the problem rather than solving it. Others attack it at its core. Children, they say, may benefit from sex with adults; it depends how the pedophile handles the child in question.
This view is certainly not new, but today it is voiced much more openly than ever it was, because it is the only view that is actually consonant with the unfolding logic of our jurisprudence and legislation. It is the only alternative to admission of error. Nevertheless, it generates profound discomfort, and even meets with firm resistance, because it penetrates to the very bedrock of natural law. Bringing into view the problem of pedophilia, hidden in the coils of the term “orientation,” is an uncomfortable reminder that we can and do tell people how to love. [emphasis added]
In other words, Farrow’s claim is that treating gay relationships as normal and equal inevitably results in treating pedophilia as normal and acceptable because homosexuality, like pedophilia, is a sexual orientation that violates natural law.
NOM has promoted several variations of this argument on multiple occasions, despite the group’s insistence that its “battle is not with an orientation.”
Along with Farrow’s column, NOM’s blog post included links to several other articles posted on the Touchstone website, including a post that called homosexuality a “moral error” and another that compared homosexuality to necrophilia and incest, as well as pedophilia.
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must they always use such tiresome slippery slopes that has already been debunked?
Fucking stupid
stupid is as stupid does…
would create more jobs that is for sure gay marriges would do that
It’s time to NUKE NOM from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
wasteland my ass!
Good grief… still using that old lie, despite the vast majority of Pedies are straight men, most of them married!
Ridiculous!
I do not suffer fools kindly. :(
Lol and all that shit hadn’t been happening without gay marriage?.. Come on get with the program…
THIS HURTS MY SOUL.
何なの？
It too bad these people dont realize that Canada has had marriage equality for some time and none of the bad things they keep saying will happen have happened…
Douglas Farrow’s momma raised an idiot!
would get us photographers more wedding gigs, which equals more money in my pocket :) plus there is a HUGE difference between Homosexuality and Pedophilia.
lol they should also look at all the other countries that have legalized same-sex marriage… has pedophilia normalized over there? no, i don’t think so. last time i heard it was the happiest country.
Those people at “NOM” are one waste of energy.
aka the netherlands lol.
That “professor” is very obviously homo-hot-and-bothered.
what planet is she from! the planet duffus!! funny ha ha
America already fucking sucks and gay marriage will make it BETTER, not worse. It’s people like THIS who make the world horrible, with screwed up, strict “morals” and not knowing the freaking definition of free or equal.
Of course, the whole concept is ignorant & disgusting. To look at basic legality alone, however, children are not consenting adults.
that is funny
blablabla someone needs to find himself a different hobby. one that doesn’t involve talking crap.
The total idiots are crawling out of the walls like cockroaches and exposing themselves. They will ultimately be the reason that thinking Americans will see the light and give us equal rights.
sadly my father has similar views to this. there is no changing their minds. I’ve given up trying.
Greatly DISAGREE!!! I am not gonna take LGBT advice from a christan . i mean im a christan but mots christians are Biast
shameful paranoia from fanatics. absolutely ridiculous claims
You were off to a great start grammatically there John, but ya blew it.
Most pedophiles don’t care what gender their victims are. They get off on having control over another human being, and children are physically and mentally (for example, if an adult sexually abused them and told them not to tell anyone, they would be more likely to obey as they were raised to listen to adults and do not know any better) incapable of fending them off. To compare an act of violence towards a helpless individual to a loving relationship between two consenting adults that probably lasts more than most marriages should be considered heresy (if we want to bring religion into this, which is what most anti-gay rights activists use as their champion argument).
If they are named after the biblical character Ruth… She had such a loyalty to another woman (her MIL of all people) that she changed cultures and convinced some guy to marry her (which he had to by law because he was related to her late husband). Not exactly what i would name my organization if i was going to go around persecuting other people’s marriages.
George Takei had the perfect word to describe this bigot: Douchebag.
“Professor of Christian Thought”? Christian Thought — now there’s an oxymoron.
right, just like interracial marriage. these assholes, there is NO CONNECTION b/w gay marriage and pedophilia
if they want to protect children from phedoohilia, they should just ban the church.
BOOOO!
Straight people are the one creating all these single mother families. Guess that’s ok to be normal? It’s ok to be a dead beat father. Guess that’s ok long as they are sending a check? Striaght people are a Pathetic example of what marriage should be. Sorry to say that but it’s the truth
These people infuriate me, pedophilia is NOT an orientation. These people are the ones that have brought up pedophilia and compared it to being gay and I can guarantee you that gay people have NO intention of legalizing pedofilia. If I were president i would utilize the national defense authorization act, consider these people threats to our country, and have them Indefinitely detained. Never to be heard from again.
someone ought to sue these nut cases for slander but then again that would just give them more publicity
WHY
Yes, following this logic they should really ban heterosexual marriages because most rapes are done by hetero guys. Right? No, wait, mine was actually BETTER logic (as messed up as it was) because most pedophiles are straight, too.
Pedophilia is a paraphilia, not an orientation, according to medical professionals. This sort of article will only work on people informed by it and it alone or other blips of information like it. If one does no more than look at the various perspectives on this issue, the paraphilia perspective is what makes sense. The rights of children are also being looked at and expanded. I have never seen evidence that anyone wants to compromise the rights of individuals to remain unmolested.
Pedophilia is a paraphilia, not an orientation, according to medical professionals. This sort of article will only work on people informed by it and it alone or other blips of information like it. If one does no more than look at the various perspectives on this issue, the paraphilia perspective is what makes sense. The rights of children are also being looked at and expanded. I have never seen evidence that anyone wants to compromise the rights of individuals to remain unmolested.
Morals!! hetro’s have alot of nerve speaking of morals!! they show such morals that it is right to deny everyone the same basic human rights!! moral?? as someone said to me one time why do we have pride parade as there are no hetro parades ha!! there are alot more hetro everything!! if i have to pay taxes for everyone to benifit from my money! but i have no rights!! so why take my money!! Morals eh BULL SHIT!! take a look at how many hetro’s are in jail for inmoral acts! what makes being hetro so superior?? Freedom is only for hetro’s i guess cause LGBTQ’s have no freedom or rights in America!!
Since the majority of pedophilia is committed by heterosexuals, it’s obvious this guy is just another blathering mental defective.
yikes. what misinformation.
Dumb is as dumb does.
:( sad misinformed haters….
Ridiculous. -_-
fear and disinformation is a weapon of theirs.
I am so sick and tired of this…and so over it! I don’t know what world these people are living in, but here, on planet Earth: Gay marriage or for that matter homosexuality period has Absolutely ZERO to do with “pedophilia”! It does however, have EVERYTHING to do with RIGHTS! The mere fact that gay marriage is a topic up for debate is despicable! People need to get enlightened. None of us should be told by the government that we can’t marry the person we love-whether it be a person of the opposite sex or the same sex. As I have said hundreds of times:”If you don’t agree with gay marriage, don’t marry a gay person.”
NOM needs to focus on making straight marriages work.
The fact is…Heterosexual or Homosexual, we are all people. Why are American people being discriminated against in this way? Why can I marry the man I love, but if he were to be a she-I would loose that right. This is Not America, it’s a nation of Bigotry!
This is bullshit -__- Making gay-marriage a debate us bullshit. The only reason it’s made into debate because the government thinks that they can use this as something to distract people from the real issues they should be debating.
I am fucking insulted as a survivor of childhood sexual abuse that people are comparing what two consenting adults do in their spare time to the horrors I suffered through as a child.
You mean, it will normalise paedophilia outside of the church? (given that a very high percentage of paedophiles hide in the church because it will protect them – at least in NZ)
This is almost funny. Idiots are made to be laughed at, and so I shall.
Our nation is becoming less and less inclusive everyday. What is America if not inclusive? People talk a lot about values and morals, but there is no value or moral in hate. We do not currently find racism acceptable or make laws in favor of it. Yet, we condone bigotry and are currently trying to make laws that not only condone it but enforce bigotry! We give rights to the people with whom the religious zealots agree and withhold rights from those whom they do Not agree with. We are not America, we are a Nation of Bigotry. At least that is the path we are currently on, until and unless we fight for change: In ourselves and in our country.
I don’t see how pedophilia is like being gay.Last time i checked gays a lesbians how sex with some of age.If your not gay yourself.How in the fuck would you what it like.Check yourself before you reck yourself!
The gay rights movement has never helped to normalize pedophilia. As gay rights have progressed society has become less tolerant of pedophiles and sex offenders. That particular slippery slope argument is a fallacy.
Does anyone care to bring these idiots, such as NOM, back to reality?
Let the ignorant create a “moral wasteland” among themselves and in their own boldness to speak, they will push the common society further and further away. I know it’s a controversial thing to propose, but let them speak. It allows the wedge between the way of the old to grow wider and stronger from the liberated and free-thinking people.
Eventually, the offspring of the ignorant will over time eventually feel forced to conform to the ever-evolving morale of society that is, in essence to truly accept one another.
Saying that homosexuality is creating and endorsing pedophilia is equivalent to saying those that die (by natural causes) are creating and endorsing murder! Which we know, in every sense of the word: obviously, that dying is not murder.
If you see many of the comments to this post you’ll realize that these NOM people are digging themselves deeper and deeper in the pile of shit they are spewing out of the opposite hole that its suppose to come out of. As long as they keep seeing homosexuality as exclusively gay sex and ignoring everything else it is…they will continue their dumbassery!
Remove religion from the equation and you have nothing to fuel hatred toward things that are naturally occurring in our world. Hence the sick ignorance that put women into oppression for hundreds of years. Or the belief that a woman’s menstrual cycle is an abomination. These twisted beliefs are given life by psychologically damaged individuals who turned their own inner hatred toward the minority and the oppressed.
We need not explain ourselves. They think that we will somehow be like “OMGOD (as in JESUS), I am sick and I am spreading my sickness.” When in reality, we are moving on and truly doing what we were designed to do: love. It’s natures decree to be as we are…blah blah blah you guys know the rest :)
the age of pieces is over.
“Christian Thought”. LOL
Wow…just wow… ugh
laffo
A lot of misinformation here. Allow me to explain. Not all pedophiles are childmolesters, just as not all child molesters are pedophiles. Pedophilia is listed down as a paraphilia, sure, but so is BDSM. They say it’s only ever harmful if acted upon. So if you’re a pedophile who does not abuse children, then you’re fine. Just keep it as fantasy and all is well. Same goes for necrophilia and incest. However, necrophilia and incest have a grey line. What if the person consented to the necrophiliac before death? Signed a paper of some sort incase caught or happened to die before their partner. Incest is acceptable, but only if they refrain from childbirth. My mother knows an incest couple in real life, they’re really nice and I believe it’d be wrong to seperate them. Whatever sexuality you are, be proud! Just as long as no one is abused.
I found it unbelievable to see such comments. perhaps they forget it’s christianity that as not only been responsible for large cases of child abuse but also covered it up. I know many people who could benefit from having being brought up by a loving couple other then the often abusive christians. perhaps it would be more productive to ban christians and promote same sex marriage.
Some people can be so F’ing stupid!!!!
More lies from the land of OZ.
What is wrong with people? Homosexuality does NOT equal pedophilia! People really make my brain hurt…
LOL! Their slippery slope argument is so 20th century. I suggest NOM, which is a Catholic Front Group (TM) discuss pedophilia with their priests before they continue the specious argument that same-gender marriage will lead to such a thing. PROJECT MUCH, NOM????
NOM agents want you to believe that children are capable of entering into verbal or written contracts with adults. NOM agents want you to believe that in the children vs. adult equation, that both parties are EQUIVALENT.
Children are not adults, just like fetuses are not people. There are laws that define this and they’re extremely clear.
Any NOM agent or supporter who believes otherwise is a morally deficient person and a LIAR. NOM is simply trying to create another distraction.
First off, being that I live in Montréal, most professors at McGill are not only over-paid dickheads but francophobic and in this case homophobic dickheads. The fact that this professor equates same-sex marriage with pedophilia is enough for Douglas Farrow to be charged under the charter of rights and freedoms for the crime of defamation. http://veille-education.org/2010/02/17/quebec-entre-heterosexisme-et-heterophobie-a-l-ecole/ I say arrest the stupid evil homophobe and deport him from Québec!!!!
http://people.mcgill.ca/douglas.farrow/ And for any Canadian citizen(preferably resident of Québec) here’s the link on how to file a complain against this evil homophobic bastard. McGil is a PUBLIC university and tax payers shouldn’t pay for this bigot’s soapbox http://www2.cdpdj.qc.ca/en/publications/Documents/leaflet_complaint.pdf
http://www.mcgill.ca/religiousstudies/ a Direct complaint to this public university which employs this baffoon will also do alot of good as well.
Sick bastards
Shame on them… Two people falling in love and wanting to share their life together can not be compared to someone using and abusing a child. As for the acceptance of homosexuality ruining society I would like to point out that society is already ruined, quickie divorces, perverted priests, and the acceptance of what can only be described as deviant behavior is the hallmark of our generation. Accepting that two men or two women can make a happy life together is a short step to taking back some sort family values. A favorite quote of mine says ” it’s not who you love, it’s how you love. Genitalia is simply gods way of accessorizing.” I don’t understand how anyone can question the love between two people and how any two people sharing their lives together can be an issue. I am a proud Canadian, and though there are still close minded people in our country; I feel good about how far we have come. The discrimination going on the states disgust me. If we can not accept more from our governments, then surely our society is a lost cause. The problem with the world is not one race or one sexuality or one religion, the problem with the world is its overreaction to diversity and change. It is outrageous to compare a pedophile to anyone as their perversions hurt and destroy people. Being gay does not.
Here we go again. Sure, someone will marry their dog……..or their cat?
ok jeremiah im a gay male and just read your equation, there buddy and it dident hurt, it just showed me how stuped you are know stick that up your calculator,
Oh yes, Jack & I will personally bring about the downfall of America!
i think we need to keep sharing this: http://bit.ly/vIvFGI
most pedophiles are straight dumbasses
I<3 gay marriage<3
Yes of course, everybody knows that here in Canada, pedophilia is legal… (sarcasm)
if gays and lesbians supported paedophiles in their struggle against prejudice and persecution, they would not only silence this kind of fallacious right wing argument but would simultaneously make it easier for paedophiles to avoid problematic behaviour such as child molesting and using child pornography. paedophilia is innate but how it is expressed is not.
it’s time for a more sophisticated analysis of this whole subject. if queers can’t rise to that challenge, who can?
“Whatever sexuality you are, be proud! Just as long as no one is abused.”
thankyou Kirstie! the fact is that, for me, children ARE sexy and sometimes i fall in love with them, but i don’t EVER think of them as potential sex partners. they may not be altogether ‘innocent’ themselves, but the children in my life will always remain innocent of my sexual feelings.
i am rightly proud of my restraint and empathy and i really appreciate your comments.
If I aam not mistaken, isnt it the Heterosexual men who are the majority of the ones who are pedos?
That guy being a Professor of Christian Thought at McGill is a reason why so many people around the world, including Christians themselves, pray…
“Dear Jesus, protect me from your radical followers.”
As if the Catholic Church wasn’t “normalizing” pedophilia already….
@Martin: Pedophilia is legal everywhere. It’s only if you act upon it that it becomes illegal.
The NOM should focus on what straight people are doing to marriage then realize it is already a “moral wasteland”. They are grasping at straws…like usual.
I’m sorry but how exactly is pedophilia a sexual orientation? Just because they “believe” that being gay is unnatural and harmful like pedophelia, doesn’t mean it’s true. There is over 100 years of research now that shows NO CAUSAL LINK between pedophelia and homosexuality. This is the exact same tactics they used to try and prevent inter-racial marriage in this country. They said it was unnatural, against God, it would spread disease and poverty, and basically unravel all of society. Seriously anti-gay black people… look it up, you might not be so proud to call yourself anti-gay when you see you’re doing the exact same thing that was done to your people 100 years ago.
@Ed: “I’m sorry but how exactly is pedophilia a sexual orientation?”
besides it being a dimension of erotic object choice, it’s innate, it can be detected independently of self report and it can’t be changed.
Keep that baboon’s ass canadian out of the United States, we have enough homophobes here already, we don’t need a kanuuk one to soil our land. Has your country gone all pedophilia on iself? After all you’ve had legal same sex marriage in Canada for several years now and its doing just fine. I suggest you go up to the Yukon and build yourself an igloo and keep your tired, and I mean tired ass up there.