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Bullies with Bibles, preachers and screechers descend upon Charlotte Pride

Second in a three-part series. Part 1 is here.
Saturday, September 3, 2011

One of the most severe forms of bullying is the misuse of the Word of God — with its intrinsic message of love — to try to coerce anyone to conform and worse, to do harm to people.

At Charlotte Pride on Saturday, August 27, not only did I witness the some of the most egregious embodiment of spiritual bullying, but I joined the LGBT community as the unfortunate target of it for six hours, solid.

I went to Charlotte with Lisa Salazar, fellow Board member of Canyonwalker Connections, for two reasons: to exemplify the inclusive love of Jesus with str8apology and conversation; and to stand against the actions of “God Has a Better Way”(GHABW). GHABW brought 200 Christians into Pride Charlotte with tee shirts printed GodHasABetterWay.com to hand out water, postcards, bracelets and concert invitations all consistent in the message: change orientation or the expression of it to be in relationship with God.

As Lisa and I walked and prayed around the perimeter of Pride Charlotte that morning, we did not know we were stepping into more public hatred than either of us had ever before faced.

I have attended many gay pride events to do the str8apology and assumed, Pride Charlotte would be similar with a heightened twist of countering the GHABW intrusive message responses.

What I had not encountered previously though, were street preachers heaven bent on abuse of the LGBT community. Dress it up with verse quotation and clutch a Bible to your breast while degrading and screaming at people and you get a public torture chamber, oh, in Jesus name, of course.

I have been around the Phelps gang with their garish signs; people consider them a carnival in a traveling van. But the street preachers we encountered that day were inside and on the perimeters the event.

On seeing them, my usual “walk amongst the crowd and hang out near affirming churches” routine changed. Maybe it is that mothering thing combined with a deep sense of justice that make me built for this work? Once I listened to and saw the street preachers/screechers, I decided to plant myself directly in their path, as a buffer between them and the crowd.

Watch this video that one screecher put up on YouTube (go to 11:00 and remember, this is their edit, which is making them look “good,” not the really damning stuff, yikes!)

And then, if you still are able, check out a few others, here, here, and here.

For six hours, these dozen or so men, mixed God’s word with attack, threat, condemnation and mockery and spoke it under the guise of love and warning.

Most people walk by them, many pose for pictures in front of them with signs of their own or kissing their same-sex partner to mock back, others try to engage them in a sane dialogue. It is a special experience however, to listen to it all in an extended format. I did not see one fruitful, Jesus-birthed moment between these men and any pride participant. Not one.

Mockery of the LGBT community was common. If I were positioning myself as a messenger of God, I might be a bit more cautious and smart about what I posted on YouTube. They were savvy enough, for the most part, to edit out the interactions I was having with people close by.

The stark contrast in the difference of reflection of Jesus was obvious. They taunted with the typical verbiage: “sodomite,” “pervert,” “sexual pervert,” “homo.” All expected.

But, amongst the barrage (interspersed with Scripture of course, praise Jesus) was delightful commentary such as this when Buddy, praise Jesus, saw a woman walking with a dog:

“Ma’am, don’t bring a dog into a sodomy festival. Be careful. Don’t bring a dog into a sodomy festival. You don’t know what these wicked sodomites will do. There’s nothing that they won’t do. Get a dog out of this place.”

Or, when offered a drink by a young gay man, he said, “No, I don’t know where your mouth has been.”

Or, when he was explaining some convoluted story about getting a shot of medicine in the behind to rid someone of homosexuality, Buddy, praise Jesus, followed with: “Oh, but that is not the only thing these people want in the rear.”

“Homosexuality is a threat to national security. To the city of Charlotte,” to which Buddy added later, “At least you are willing to admit that homosexuals are extremely violent people. Look what God did to Sodom and Gomorrah! If homosexuality continues, God might wipe us out again with fire and brimstone!”

Or,

“If the sodomites want to be all by themselves, rent a hotel ballroom or convention center. But if you want to bring your wickedness into the streets of Charlotte, we will be there taking a stand against you.”

Hmmmm, a display of Jesus’ warning, Jesus’ loving, Jesus’ healing techniques? Strange approach.

I had very few direct exchanges with the screechers. Not that they did not try. I ignored them. I did point my finger in Buddy’s face and in my best New Yorker don’t f-with-me tone said, “Stop it. You are disgusting and mocking people. You are the coarse man of the flesh. Jesus would never speak like you do.”

To which he scolded, “You say not one word of rebuke to these sodomites, yet you rebuke me woman!”

“Yes,” I told him, “They are not setting themselves up as a man of God. You are.”

These guys are slick in technique. Typically, they engage in conversation and frustrate the other party.

One man, the granddaddy of the open-air gang was there. He was there that is, until he was arrested for breaking City of Charlotte sound ordinance laws. He had been warned numerous times to “turn it down” but finally, he could not resist the need to loudly and boldly declare how God felt about the LGBT communities. Was he reading from the Psalms or Galatians about love and grace? Nope, Romans 1.

“I’m not judging you, Gawd is.”

I watched his polished
technique closely when he engaged some people. Two
young beauties that were clearly in love had gone from “screecher group” to “screecher group” questioning them, “Why is God
so against me loving my girlfriend? Tell me, why is it wrong for me to fall in love?”

The man of God would then tell her, in a sweet, condescending voice, “Darlin’ it is not me
judgin’ you and tellin’ you. It is Gawd. He is the One telling you that it is abom-nation. You’re going to hell unless you repent.”

Yada, yada, yada.

I stood very close to this conversation. Annoyingly close for the granddaddy of them all; I was beyond social graces. I leaned in as it escalated and said, “Honey, do not leave here until you talk to me, understand?” And so, it continued until the questioner got intensely frustrated and erupted. Sappy mockery takes its toll eventually on the oppressed.

One of the young women talking to the soon-to-be-arrested “man of God” exploded, “F*** you, f*** your f***ing God too. I don’t want anything to do with you and your f***ing God!”

She stormed off, flipping them all off. Nice job boys, one more entirely frustrated person trying to find her place in life, love and God.

As she left in a fury, preacher man was calling out, “That’s right. You have the devil in you. That is the way you homosexuals are. Heathens, this is why you need Jesus.” The balance of his group were all nodding agreement and mumbling equally non-loving judgments with their banners of condemnation held high, wearing tee shirts and hats emblazoned with both the warning and majesty of God.

I walked a few feet away from the stone throwers and put my arms around both these young women to form a little huddle blocking out the noise of the continuing condemnation. What I said to them was a variation of what I said over a hundred times that day to individuals and groups.

“Do you know that God loves you just the way you are? Do you know that He created you just the way you are and He sees your beauty? You are so beautiful to Him. Did you grow up in any faith? …

“What happened, why did you leave (if they did, which was the most typical answer)?” …

“Let me help you reconcile your sexual orientation with the Bible. Go to my website and check out the VERSES link. If you have any questions, engage me there. There is also a link on the side that will help you find a church in your area that will welcome you and if you can’t find one, write to me and I will hook you up with an online streaming church in a denomination you are comfortable with.

“Here is a brochure for Gay Christian Network, an online community of over 18K gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Christians to support you. So don’t feel like you need to walk away from God, He is crazy about you and would love to get back into your life. Okay? Don’t listen to all this conditional stuff, go figure this out. Talk to me, let me help you.

“And, you really are gorgeous just the way you are.”

That was my message, all day long. Not deceit, not “ear tickling” heretical messages, just “get back in the game.”

Most of this played out directly in front of the screechers. They were not pleased with me. To add to the offense of my position of defense, is that I am a woman.

Control, homophobia and misogyny seem to be a trinity for this group. Imagine God using a woman, in plain view of the Pharisees, to do healing and inviting, as they stood a few away, convinced they were God’s divine tools of repentance?

It was an amazing scene played out over and over, all day long. Within a small circle of pavement, were two divergent “come look at God” techniques. One causing destruction and repulsion and the other offering healing and invitation.

I want to be clear here. I had no intention of standing as a buffer. None. This is not what I usually do. I am naturally a nurturing Mommy type; I love people; I can have conversation with a rock. God glued me in front of these men. I had never seen anyone stand as a buffer for hours, but this was God’s plan.

Cursing Kathy with death and destruction.

It was like a mania in me; I had no option. It was not Plan A though for: Ken, Buddy, Justin, Richard, Shane, Brian, Stan, Flip and gang. Standing only feet in front of them with my “Hurt by Church? get a #str8aplogy here” shirt and loving “the sinners” was a red flag to them.

And, went for it they did.

They yelled at me for hours, calling me and saying to me:

  • Spawn of Satan, devil, witch.
  • Deceiver, liar, wolf in sheep’s clothing, ear tickler, false prophet, heretic and of course, the group favorite, Jezebel.
  • You are the “worst person at this event. Worse than every homo-sex-ual here because you lie to these people.”.
  • “You are going to burn in hell.” “You are walking to destruction.” Three men of God even prayed prophetically for me that I would be destroyed and my life would be full of destruction. (Thanks for the uplifting prophetic words gents. Gosh.).
  • My lifestyle (huh?) was an abomination to a Holy God.
  • My knowledge of, reading of and studying of the Word of God was reduced to nothing.
  • I needed a man to control me. (Really) And that is why women should not preach, teach or lead. We are easily deceived and will lead others astray.
  • “You will be called to account for your actions before a Holy God.” I told them “I hope so, because what I do, I do it in His name.”

(Oh, Richard Pope, you can stop calling me now. You are calling a computer recording and I will not answer you. I too love the Word of God and you are several chocolates short of a Valentines box of Jesus love.)

For the past year, people have prayed intentional prayers over me, (thank you) for the protection of my ears and soul when the venom comes at me. I get lots of nastigrams, they never get to me. To have all that directed at me verbally was a new height, or low. I heard for hours what was said to the LGBT community of the Charlotte area.

I listened to one-on-one conversations of utter condemnation. I watched the faces and body language of these dozen or so men. Bibles in hands, threatening messages on their shirts, hats, banners and handouts. They would tell you they were there to “warn in love” and to urge pride participants that they need to get right with God.

If this is part of the Jesus PR team, we need not look further as to why LGBT people don’t feel welcome in churches. And, dear ignorant man, 84 percent of the people you were yelling at grew up in the faith and many of the ones that did not walk away are incredibly bright shining examples of Jesus. And, yes, they are gay, and yes, they are transgender and no, they do not need to repent for being created.

These street preachers and screechers are bullies with Bibles and I do not think they are going to disappear.

They go event to event and excitedly tell each other (they would do well to close down their Facebook walls), “See you at X event or Y city. We can carpool down from here. Can’t wait to see you, brother. We’ll be kicking out some demons there.”

From what I saw, they could save on gas, go to forest clearing together and have plenty of demons to deal with. They were one banjo short of a “deliverance” on their own.

Is this the public voice of God that Christians want spoken at events?

There will always be the fringe on the edge that are extremists. But, these yellers are the ones that are ever-present and driven. At least the “God Has a Better Way” folks were not screaming and mocking; they are not exempt for the exclusion however. They were directing all their handouts and conversation to a “you need to get fixed” site.

I know the bulk of us Christians are right in that middle spot of deciding how we feel on this issue of inclusion of the LGBT communities with full integration in our faith communities. And, in the meantime, in public spaces, spaces where gay youth, the most vulnerable of all targets, LGBT people are being barraged with messages ranging from thinly coated intolerance to obvious hate.

How about declaring love with the same passion that hate and intolerance is declared? Is their message the revelation of Jesus that you want expressed in the public arena outside your churches?

I am convinced these street screechers are driven with self-serving reasons; they must be. I saw no benefit from their presence. I did not plan on standing between these bullies with Bibles and their targets in Charlotte. I know to my core, that was my place that day in the Kingdom.

You don’t need to go all mega-buffer crazy like I did; you can do simple actions. Invite a lesbian couple for a meal and listen to their story. Stop telling and start listening. See that little boigirl your daughter hangs out with? Take her along on the next family camping trip and get to know her.

Does your faith community teeter-totter on this issue? Invite open dialogue and make sure some of your LGBT congregants get equal say. Show up at a gay pride event, get a booth and let the LGBT community know both you and God want to hang out with them.

Remember, 84 percent were raised in faith; Christ is not an unfamiliar concept, Christian love however is. They just happen to be same-sex attracted. They have spiritual relationships with God just as heterosexuals do. Faith is a heart issue, not a “genitalia and what you do with it” issue.

If you are a believer in Jesus, I would hope most of us would never wear “repent or burn” shirt to a gay pride event or even a condemning “God Has a Better Way” shirt. Try being brave and humble and wearing a “str8apology” shirt and help repair the damage Christians have done to God’s rainbow children and those that love them.

A final word of gratitude and appreciation for the Peacekeepers at Pride Charlotte. They are the ones in the fluorescent green vests surrounding the street screechers. You did a magnificent job!

I asked one woman how she tolerated the crazy talk all day. With a perfectly calm face and response, she said, “I do this for a living.”

Oh, I thought, mediator, police officer, divorce attorney? “I work with emotionally disturbed children,” she replied. What an accurate comparison. Sadly.

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17 more reader comments:

  1. Jesus, how fucking insulting. I bet so many of the lgbtq supporters there ARE Christian… What a dumb ass… Do people ever actually see these guys and go “Oh hey okay I’ll be a Christian now, thanks!”? No… So clearly they are just there to be rude. urgh fml

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 10:42am
  2. I find it unbelievable that these people are legally allowed to come to a pride event and openly DISCRIMINATE and condemn our souls to hell! One day this will no longer be tolerated! We are getting closer and closer!

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 10:47am
  3. I sometimes wonder why there are Christians that wear or have something that says “What Would Jesus Do?” and yet they don`t follow What Would Jesus Do.

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 10:58am
  4. “God’s Rainbow Children”..I never heard that before. I just love it..kinda dreamy & all..

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 11:07am
  5. plese these people wouldent know true faith if it walked up and kicked them in the nuts

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 11:23am
  6. he’s a gas bag

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 11:26am
  7. Really? isn’t there a point when he’s desterbing the peace. we’re too leanint on these people. they call us pedifiles and compare us with insest, yet there’s no law suits for slander, they invade our places of peace and call it god’s work.

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 11:29am
  8. @ Paula…I love that too! God’s Rainbow Children! I will remember that and carry that with me from now on! Although I would be God’s Rainbow Over the Hill Children!

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 11:29am
  9. What really bother’s me is when all these so called Christians quote the Bible and say that it’s a sin to be gay and they are against gay marriage…I just wonder how many of them really LIVE every single word of the bible…starting with love thy neighbor and we are ALL Gods children! They just pick and choose which part of the bible that suits them on any given day! I guarantee we are much better Christians they they ever thought about being!

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 11:42am
  10. I really wonder how much longer this discrimination will be tolerated, as someone above posted. I know law enforcement and legal experts say it is their legal right to assemble and have thier free speech, but this is hate speech. Would law enforcement and society tolerate it if it was a group of Irish Haters at an Irish Heritage Festival? I have a feeling they would be broken up somehow (ie. “you need permit, you are disturbing the peace, etc).” I have thought for years as I go the pride parade here in Dayton, how can this be legal to be harrassed like this? Im no lawyer, but I think it is worth looking into.

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 12:07pm
  11. pffft

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 12:14pm
  12. about the right to assemble for the street preachers — I just got off the phone with one of the event organizers. Public street, first amendment and no loudspeakers. Access to ANYONE. The fools that were on the outside (with the one that got arrested) wanted to use a loudspeaker (so that EVERYONE could REALLY hear the love of God) needed a permit and needed to be 100 ft from the festival. I am going back next year and I am sure I will have more people with me to stand in opposition to Brown and these screechers. Just stand in front of them on the sidewalk, public access where I too can be . Blocking them. Beat them at their own game. Childs play.

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 12:41pm
  13. Again I do not have to read this to know those people are fucking idiots

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 2:11pm
  14. This is one of the reasons why i stopped believing in “god” you can check my vlogs out and get my reasoning behind it at youtube.com/Gs382 But this avid hate for people is just wrong, it really is I just can’t stand it anymore, I hope they find happiness in their lives cause apparently they aren’t happy in their current situation if they are yelling hate all the time.

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 2:39pm
  15. The misuse of the “word of God” is everytime somebody says that God said anything, since there has never been a word spoken by any god or godess to any human since this species exists, only words written by Bronze Age men in quest of power over their populations. Occam’s razor, the simplest explanation is generally the right one.

    Posted on Saturday, September 3, 2011 at 9:55pm
  16. “To which he scolded, “You say not one word of rebuke to these sodomites, yet you rebuke me woman!”
    “Yes,” I told him, “They are not setting themselves up as a man of God. You are.””

    Excellent rebuke; if one professes to speak God’s word then ones behaviour should be exemplary…those cretins are anything but that.

    Posted on Sunday, September 4, 2011 at 9:14am
  17. Now I know why I didn’t see you, Kathy. You were around the nastier ones. I was with Partners in peace for four hours, and then the nasty people that I was near finally left. I realized later they had migrated to the area you were at.

    I salute you. I went near there, and I could literally feel the evil spilling from these people (the most hateful ones were there). You are a much stronger woman than me. And I am so grateful that I got to be a part of it. Even after having someone almost yelling in my ear, several times, as I was a part of the buffer zone, quoting scriptures, etc. I just ignored them. lol

    I’ll be there again, myself. I hope to meet you the next go ’round. :)

    Posted on Sunday, September 18, 2011 at 2:44pm