Follow breaking news @lgbtqnation

Killer stoned his victim to death because Bible refers to stoning gays

Friday, March 18, 2011

John Joe Thomas

LANSDOWNE, Pa. — Police in suburban Philadelphia have arrested a man and charged him with murder in the brutal beating of an elderly man. The suspect told police he killed his victim using a sock stuffed with rocks because the Old Testament refers to stoning homosexuals.

WCAU-TV, Philadelphia, reports:

John Joe Thomas, 28, of Sunshine Road in Upper Darby, spent almost every day with 70-year-old Murray Seidman at Seidman’s Lansdowne home, police say. Days before Seidman’s body was found on Jan. 12, Thomas allegedly beat Seidman to death with a sock full of rocks.

Thomas told authorities that he read in the Old Testament that homosexuals should be stoned to death. When Seidman allegedly made homosexual advances toward him over a period of time, Thomas said he received a message in his prayers that he must end Seidman’s life, according to court documents.

Murray Seidman

Though the relationship between the two men is still unknown, Thomas was
the sole executor of Seidman’s will and knew how much money was in Seidman’s bank accounts, police say.

Thomas also told police he had spent nearly every day with Seidman, and he had the power of attorney over Seidman’s affairs.

Lansdowne police Chief Daniel Kortan said the break in the investigation
came when Thomas allegedly told a witness he beat an older man to death.

Thomas allegedly described for the witness how he placed batteries and rocks in a sock, and hit Seidman in the head at least 10 times.

Archives: , , , ,

Filed under: Pennsylvania

37 more reader comments:

  1. Sick.

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:36pm
  2. :O

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:36pm
  3. Im happy that we have one more killer off the streets, and the bible does not say Stone the person… Jesus Christ…

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:37pm
  4. This is horrible…this is why one should NEVER take the Bible literally, -_-

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:38pm
  5. It also says ‘Thou shalt not kill’. :/

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:39pm
  6. They should stone him for killing! Wow people can’t be there self! Teach ur kids love

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:39pm
  7. What a fuckin asshole..he will be accountable by god for judging another and murder…hell is his reward!!!!

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:39pm
  8. this is fucked

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:39pm
  9. It also says we should kill people who cut their hair and shave. People who build their lives around a book thousands of years old aren’t really thinking clearly. None of the laws are really relevant anymore

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:40pm
  10. another arrogant idiot makes me afraid to live in this country and one more reason for me to move to toronto.

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:40pm
  11. Horrible :

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:41pm
  12. Well what do you expect when SCOTUS rules that somehow, saying “God hate fags” and picketing gay soldiers’ funerals is acceptable…

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:41pm
  13. I feel like there’s something missing to this. My guess is they had an affair or something.. It just seems really random. Or I guess the guy is crazy.. Which he seems to be.. But still, made he made up the bible thing to make sense so no one would think/find out he’s gay. Oh the possibilities..

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:41pm
  14. That’s it, im moving to Canada.

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:42pm
  15. Omg so horrible

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:42pm
  16. I swear, that Book should be locked up. One should have to pass an I.Q. test and psychological screening even to look at it!

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:43pm
  17. Ridiculous.

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:43pm
  18. My condolences to both families.

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:44pm
  19. The Bible is a written hippocracy. No one should take what it states seriously. And that’s coming from a Christian, a gay Christian.

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:45pm
  20. And funny, too, how the Bible somehow justifies the murder of gays and lesbians but when a pregnant woman wants to end her pregnancy, oh no sir! That’s murder… Christians certainly pick and chose which lives they value.

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:45pm
  21. WOW…Religion really really SUCKS…and not in a good way…

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:46pm
  22. This is y i hate politics and religion,they giv sycos ideas 2 kill

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:46pm
  23. this really sucks !

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:48pm
  24. This is just barbaric

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:49pm
  25. that’s horrible

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:49pm
  26. The bible is not a perfect book whoever thinks it is sorry your wrong and yes i’m a christian

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:50pm
  27. hope this asshole gets life in prison!thats just cruel! killing someone because of sexual orentation is very wrong!!! and why oh why do 2 people actually like this??

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:55pm
  28. : hmmmm…I wonder who taught him that lesson…?

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:56pm
  29. I would very much like to stone him right now! >:o
    ..though not to death.. But I want to inflict some serious pain to this guy now >:o

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:58pm
  30. Its a book written and rewritten by a bunch of old crazy men to say what they believe. Hope he is hung on the steps of the capital!

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:58pm
  31. and we are in the 21st century! im very ashamed of this!

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 4:58pm
  32. I guess this is alright since he was following the word of the Bible, huh? So which Red Lobster should we line up outside of to begin stoning those who ate shellfish? Will the Holiday Inn allow stoning in their parking lot? You know those motels are where all the adultery is occurring.

    Since when did being a Christian include blindly follow every archaic edict in the Bible. I though Jesus showed us a better way. I guess I’ve been wrong to try and follow his example all these years. If strict adherence to the old customs/laws is required to be a Christian I believe I’ll invest my money in a rock quarrey cause something tells me there’s going to be a big call for stones in the future!!!

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 5:00pm
  33. Another criminal is jail,and can’t hurt more people. It’s so insane that people like this even exist today.

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 5:31pm
  34. If it’s worth anything, I casually knew both of these men. This is horrible. John Thomas has schizophrenia and hadn’t been taking his medication for a while. They were very good friends. I am sorry Murray! RIP. John Thomas, you need help!

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 6:43pm
  35. My guess is the kid and the old man had been having sex for awhile and guilt got the best of him. Since, apparently, he was a religious psycho to begin with, this is not a surprising outcome.

    Posted on Friday, March 18, 2011 at 11:31pm
  36. a UN SANCTIONED WORLD WIDE BAN ON RELIGION Nothing less is going to save this planet

    Posted on Saturday, March 19, 2011 at 3:07am
  37. Okay, I have a few words on this event as a Christian this was just as gruesome as it would be for a non-believer so my comment on this is,..Jesus Christ came to die for this very thing and do you remember what He said about those who have no sin cast the first stone? well He’s the only one without sin and since he died that law is dead and now we follow the law of Christ thats why you don’t see anymore sacrifices to the One True God this boy should spend allot more time in the NT wile in prison might i reach out,this reminds me about eve in the garden and the devil tempting eve and that God is not the author of confusion, so y’know if some one out there who is pending on being a Christian, let this not trouble you to the point of turning away it’s a very evil thing and much said is evil coming out of it, Peace to you all

    Posted on Saturday, April 9, 2011 at 5:35pm